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Gibsense, how do you add a third dimension to flatland? That would make it 3D, and it would no longer be flatland. What can such verbal...
Jul 7, 2024
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Yes. Flatland is two dimensional. But we have established that a sphere (surface) is 2D. I really do not understand this. A...
Jul 7, 2024
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"Communication across the great divide is inevitably partial." -- Thomas S. Kuhn. Gibsense, Your diagram is partial, incomplete, as...
Jul 6, 2024
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This gets very confusing if we try to think only of geometry. For the flatlander, r is unknowable. Only D+ understands what r means. r...
Jul 6, 2024
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Is it not the case that distance, r, experienced by D+, is area the flatlander's universe? They each have a different concept of...
Jul 6, 2024
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That is because you are D+ in my analogy, but the flatlander experiences r^2. Cat :)
Jul 6, 2024
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Gibsense, Has this anything to do with r^2 D+ sees linear expansion of r, but flatlander sees expansion per r^2. The map was not the...
Jul 6, 2024
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Basic Error: The accelerating Universe conclusion - reason So I was not off track, after all. According to the analogy, of course...
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and . . . . . . . . . As the radius of the sphere increases linearly, the area increases as r^2. So D+ sees linear expansion from...
Jul 6, 2024
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Gibsense, your dog is my flatlander, but I cannot let the flatlander out. It takes the dog's master to understand the dog's predicament...
Jul 6, 2024
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You may be right but I am not sure I understand. I know you like a Mobius strip - it is satisfying in that it is complete in a way. If...
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Many years ago (like so very many) an Astronomer said to me: "John, beyond this universe is nothing". I said 'ok so space with nothing...
Jul 6, 2024
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Gibsense, that does help, although I get the impression that you seem to, perhaps, attach more "reality" to the "analogy" than I do. I...
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Cat and the Balloon analogy Balloon = Sphere (n-sphere, whatever) Cat says to blow up the balloon and the dots on it separate by the...
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Gibsense, I am aware of this: . . . . . . . . . but was this the real primary objective? Cat :)
Jul 6, 2024
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