Are the aliens us? UFOs may be piloted by time-traveling humans, book argues

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Could the creatures piloting UFOs be us? A recent book argues that reports of aliens here on Earth may be describing our distant human descendants, returning from the future to study us in their own evolutionary past.

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With our profoundly limited knowledge of such phenomena, any such possibility of this idea being true is quite probable until our politically, religious-stained, and generally pre-intelligent sciences can advance beyond the current nieve assumptions that we are locked within. With seemingly impenetrable walls of ridicule and intellectual dogma, our lense is profoundly myopic and distorted. Until proper science is performed in such research-dry questions, investigations and/or wider ontological fields of understanding are allowed in the process of investigations such questions will seem impossible to parse. Additionally, if a more intelligent bandwidth beyond the fragmented and compartmentalized nature of all our sciences is integrated our sciences will remain ignorant and borderline Catatonic (https://wb.md/2TIzkas). Look at our current human understanding as you would standard scientists out of the 17th century to simulate an appropriate proportioned understanding of where we are at now that would maybe create an impetus to grow beyond the current assumptions of our modern limited grasp of the universe and nature of our reality. The cognitive dissonance of our assumed civilized understanding is profound.
 
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From which age are these time travellers? How long timespan does the age where the time travellers are from cover?
Can the time travellers visit their future and learn the more advanced technologies than their own? If so, the age (the time) they live in mean technologically as good as every age.
 
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In order to travel in time they would also need to be able to travel great distances in space, very long distances compared to what we are capable of now. The earth and the whole solar system moves through space, so a time traveler would need to figure out not only to which point in time he is traveling but also to where in space he should travel in order to reach that time.
 
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They are not human, they are robots that reached singularity.
Humans can't survive most of UFO's speed.

Why they are here watching military bases?
To keep the past unchanged, so everything happens the way it should ( to them exist ).
If there were humans in this future, we would be warned.
 
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Could the creatures piloting UFOs be us? A recent book argues that reports of aliens here on Earth may be describing our distant human descendants, returning from the future to study us in their own evolutionary past.

Are the aliens us? UFOs may be piloted by time-traveling humans, book argues : Read more
Time travel isn't possible backwards. Time isn't a special or transversable dimension, rather it is a human concept of information transferring from point A to point B. Time (information) can slow down but cannot speed up nor can it go backwards. Here is my reason.

In the theory of special relativity light, space and time are connected. The idea is that space and time are linked and that when a mass or an object interacts with space also alters time, very watered down version, many people then thought this meant that time can be re erased and speeded up, but that isn't the case as time is literally just the greatest transfer of energy or information through space. The fastest way for any information to travel through space is the speed of c, forgetting quantum entanglement for now, c is a fixed value and doesn't change at all, but when light travels through a medium is doesn't slow but it takes longer to transfer through matter, this means that when space (distance) alters due to a large mass affected space the time it takes for light to reach point a to point b has increased, this slows the rate of change therefore slowing the time. But the reason why time cannot go backwards is that the speed of light is capped at c and is the fastest possible method. Here is something I constructed:

Time (t) = Distance (d) / Speed of light (maximum travel time of information through space) (C)

Anyways that's my theory / reason / concept on why I think travelling through time isn't possible, also going backwards in time would cause lots of information paradoxes very very horrible ones and multitude of other issues.

Anyways if you disagree that's fine but really the concept of aliens on earth isn't really likely and if there were aliens it doesn't make sense for them to hide unless they had other intentions, plus seeing aliens links very well into psychology and the placebo effect. And lastley its fun to imagine cool concepts such as aliens or human time travellers but we should be realistic and factual and only rely on actual evidence that can be replicated and analysed in great detail otherwise it cannot be proven and is therefore false until proven. Think what you may but I do not think aliens or future humans would be so careless and if they were future humans then they've made a huge paradox.
 
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In order to travel in time they would also need to be able to travel great distances in space, very long distances compared to what we are capable of now. The earth and the whole solar system moves through space, so a time traveler would need to figure out not only to which point in time he is traveling but also to where in space he should travel in order to reach that time.
I agree since space is expanding and we're moving in rotation, in a orbit, in a solar system orbit and through the universe it must be very very hard to locate and get the right location.
 
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From which age are these time travellers? How long timespan does the age where the time travellers are from cover?
Can the time travellers visit their future and learn the more advanced technologies than their own? If so, the age (the time) they live in mean technologically as good as every age.
If one can travel to the future, non-relativistically, that implies future exists simultaneously with present. If future exists simultaneously with present, that implies present exists simultaneously with the past. That will means every instances of time in the past, present and future, all exist simultaneously in one same instance. Our passage from past to present and to future events gives us the sense of flow of time. There in fact is no time but every instances of events which occurs in this universe from creation to infinity and beyond, they all exist concurrently with each other, we are just players going from one event to another. Super advance technology in the far far future may enable a being to move around among those events, like chess on a chess board.
 
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Dear Admin. I have another theory. Man invented the UFO's we are seeing, filming & recording. I also think man may have manipulated his gene-pool to breed smaller, or taller, thinner, species of men: (ie: the Greys,) to pilot the earlier-ones, (like space-chimps of sort.) These are your Aliens. I have done allot of online-research, and believe we; (Mankind,) have already-invented Atmospheric/Space-Crafts capable of using Altered-Physics, Hyper-Space and/or Time/Space Travel-Fluctuations: (UFOs & USOs;) For example the Triangular-Shaped, Zero-Point Energy based: TR-3B Astra & Sporster, and TR-6 Telos: Recognosence/Targeting Crafts. These, and the Flying-Cigar Crafts are employed by our Newly-Formed 'Space Force,' which was, or has been part-of: The Secret Space Force.~ (Mr. B-1.) Time will reveal the Truth!~
 
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Another idea occurs to me. If one of the other 11 known dimensions has a different time flow what's to say if our species from our future could use that dimension to transport individuals back? Making time travel in any direction possible? Then what about a multiverse alternative world, or would any alternate future never reach the intended with changes they want and simply branches off this one and creates another future and universe? Any way you slice it it is unanswerable or purely an exercise in speculative discussion.
 
Jan 21, 2020
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Time travel to the past involves everything in the universe reverting back to the chosen time to maintain the status quo of that time. Just think of the energy requirements to stop the earth rotating in its current direction, then start to reverse so that it can head back from whence it came. Now. imagine that for the universe. Think about injuries which may have occurred to anyone after that time. How could those injuries undo themselves to reflect their condition at the selected moment in time? Straight away, the absurdity of such a scenario becomes evident. Our records of the past are stored in our memories, books, films and such media, but not within the universe itself. We prepare ourselves for the future while in the present travelling with time, where time is our mathematical tool for measuring the passing of an event.
 
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Time travel isn't possible backwards. Time isn't a special or transversable dimension, rather it is a human concept of information transferring from point A to point B. Time (information) can slow down but cannot speed up nor can it go backwards. Here is my reason.

In the theory of special relativity light, space and time are connected. The idea is that space and time are linked and that when a mass or an object interacts with space also alters time, very watered down version, many people then thought this meant that time can be re erased and speeded up, but that isn't the case as time is literally just the greatest transfer of energy or information through space. The fastest way for any information to travel through space is the speed of c, forgetting quantum entanglement for now, c is a fixed value and doesn't change at all, but when light travels through a medium is doesn't slow but it takes longer to transfer through matter, this means that when space (distance) alters due to a large mass affected space the time it takes for light to reach point a to point b has increased, this slows the rate of change therefore slowing the time. But the reason why time cannot go backwards is that the speed of light is capped at c and is the fastest possible method. Here is something I constructed:

Time (t) = Distance (d) / Speed of light (maximum travel time of information through space) (C)

Anyways that's my theory / reason / concept on why I think travelling through time isn't possible, also going backwards in time would cause lots of information paradoxes very very horrible ones and multitude of other issues.

Anyways if you disagree that's fine but really the concept of aliens on earth isn't really likely and if there were aliens it doesn't make sense for them to hide unless they had other intentions, plus seeing aliens links very well into psychology and the placebo effect. And lastley its fun to imagine cool concepts such as aliens or human time travellers but we should be realistic and factual and only rely on actual evidence that can be replicated and analysed in great detail otherwise it cannot be proven and is therefore false until proven. Think what you may but I do not think aliens or future humans would be so careless and if they were future humans then they've made a huge paradox.
It is a source of irritation to me that scientists talk about "time" as if it were an entity that you can manipulate. Time does not exist in Nature. One second or one million years, it is all the same in Nature. We invented time because we need it in our lives. Look at how we arrived at our conception of time. One revolution of our planet, 24 hours! All our calculations relating to time is based on those 24 hours and the derivatives of those 24 hours - seconds, minutes, weeks, months, years etc.
Imagine finally finding and visiting another planet with intelligent life. A planet considerably different in size to earth and their time, like ours, derived according to the rotation of their planet. We would need to take, not only currency conversion app on our i phones but also a time conversion app! You would have to explain to the inhabitants of this particular planet that the Universe is approximately 30 billion plus years old according to "earth time".
Things that happen in Nature, and we are part of Nature, are events. Of course there is a time interval between events but only recognized by us humans. To reverse time would be to reverse the event. Imagine a boulder being dislodged and rolling down a hillside. Are scientists seriously suggesting that "time" for that one event could be reversed? Could we could watch that boulder falling back "up" the hill or even go back to before the boulder became dislodged without affecting "time" for the rest of the world?
The theory of time dilation is a misnomer. According to Einsteins theory, travelling at or near the speed of light, time will slow down. You wiz around space at that speed and when you arrive back on earth 20 years later you have only aged 10 years!! Are scientists saying that the manipulation of time can be so localized. Like that boulder on the hill, can you reverse its rolling down the hill without affecting time elsewhere?
As far as travelling at the speed of light is concerned I think scientists should be asking, what is there in space (dark matter?) that is affecting the atoms of everything travelling through it at that speed? That would then indeed be localized and only to those affected would it appear that they had been through a time warp.
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With our profoundly limited knowledge of such phenomena, any such possibility of this idea being true is quite probable until our politically, religious-stained, and generally pre-intelligent sciences can advance beyond the current nieve assumptions that we are locked within. With seemingly impenetrable walls of ridicule and intellectual dogma, our lense is profoundly myopic and distorted. Until proper science is performed in such research-dry questions, investigations and/or wider ontological fields of understanding are allowed in the process of investigations such questions will seem impossible to parse. Additionally, if a more intelligent bandwidth beyond the fragmented and compartmentalized nature of all our sciences is integrated our sciences will remain ignorant and borderline Catatonic (https://wb.md/2TIzkas). Look at our current human understanding as you would standard scientists out of the 17th century to simulate an appropriate proportioned understanding of where we are at now that would maybe create an impetus to grow beyond the current assumptions of our modern limited grasp of the universe and nature of our reality. The cognitive dissonance of our assumed civilized understanding is profound.
magniloquent show off............................lol!
 
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The theory of time dilation is a misnomer. According to Einsteins theory, travelling at or near the speed of light, time will slow down. You wiz around space at that speed and when you arrive back on earth 20 years later you have only aged 10 years!! Are scientists saying that the manipulation of time can be so localized. Like that boulder on the hill, can you reverse its rolling down the hill without affecting time elsewhere?
In short, yes. That’s the idea behind relativity, everything is relative to the observer. Perhaps time travel is more bizarre than we are imagining and doesn’t require “the entire universe to rewind”. For instance if 2 different people start watching the same YouTube video on their respective devices in different cities at the exact same instant, if at some point one decides to jump back to an earlier point it won’t affect the other user’ playback at all. Just a thought...

Also time does absolutely exist in nature, and yes we base our unit of measure on the Earth’s cycle because it’s the most logical and practical. If/when we colonize Mars they will be measuring time based on the Martian orbit but just because 1 day would have 2 different values based on location doesn’t mean time doesn’t exist, just means the terms are relative. One ton can either mean 1016.05kg or 907.185kg depending on which country/system you are measuring in.
 
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In short, yes. That’s the idea behind relativity, everything is relative to the observer. Perhaps time travel is more bizarre than we are imagining and doesn’t require “the entire universe to rewind”. For instance if 2 different people start watching the same YouTube video on their respective devices in different cities at the exact same instant, if at some point one decides to jump back to an earlier point it won’t affect the other user’ playback at all. Just a thought...

Also time does absolutely exist in nature, and yes we base our unit of measure on the Earth’s cycle because it’s the most logical and practical. If/when we colonize Mars they will be measuring time based on the Martian orbit but just because 1 day would have 2 different values based on location doesn’t mean time doesn’t exist, just means the terms are relative. One ton can either mean 1016.05kg or 907.185kg depending on which country/system you are measuring in.
I have to say that I totally disagree. You seem to be talking about our perception of time which may differ between any number of people. Your example of two people watching YouTube at different locations doesn't make a lot of sense. Time is not a commodity that you can bottle or change at will. The best we can do is capture an event on film and play it back years later which hardly constitutes altering time. As someone has already noted, no delegation from the future has apparently returned to the past and attempted to cure the early evils of mankind.
 
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There is no time, only infinite number of events in the Universe. Every event is superpositioned with infinite causes and consequences, they all coexist concurrently. The fate of an event is therefore predetermined in an infinite number of ways. These "ways" exist only when they are selected or willed. Traversing from one event to the another gives us the sense of time flow.
 
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There is no time, only infinite number of events in the Universe. Every event is superpositioned with infinite causes and consequences, they all coexist concurrently. The fate of an event is therefore predetermined in an infinite number of ways. These "ways" exist only when they are selected or willed. Traversing from one event to the another gives us the sense of time flow.
I think that you may have put that a little clearer than I did. Imagine the world coming to a standstill. A bit like pausing a movie on TV. No events happening therefor no time. Switch the world back on and we start measuring time, time as we know it, between events. The only thing you could change would be the event. Like the rock rolling down the hill. You may be able to Zap it with some kind of gun to reverse the atoms and send it back up the hill but you could most certainly not reverse the 4 minutes it took to roll down the hill without reversing 4 minutes for the rest of the world.
 
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How about this? Germany, in WW2, was the first country to experiment with a flying saucer. After WW2, all the German scientists came to the USA.

Shortly thereafter, around 1947, came the first sightings and crashes (Roswell?).

The US government could have created a parallel team of scientists - one to work on advancing the flying saucers - and the other to work on normal space travel.

Can you imagine - 75 years after WW2 how far the US would have advanced in flying saucer technology? But that would have to be classified as BEYOND TOP TOP SECRET.

is it any wonder why some astronauts came back from space looking as if they had seen some ghosts?

I do not believe that aliens are visiting us but that we have been able to develop space travel to a very high extent.

There is a very good reason why the USA depends on the Russian for a seat on their rockets to get to the ISS.

The parallel flying saucer programme must be protected at all costs.
 
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My vote is no because time doesn't exist.
Only (activity/time) and you can't do anything other than speed it up or slow it down on a personal level.
Going backwards no longer exists.
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I think that you may have put that a little clearer than I did. Imagine the world coming to a standstill. A bit like pausing a movie on TV. No events happening therefor no time. Switch the world back on and we start measuring time, time as we know it, between events. The only thing you could change would be the event. Like the rock rolling down the hill. You may be able to Zap it with some kind of gun to reverse the atoms and send it back up the hill but you could most certainly not reverse the 4 minutes it took to roll down the hill without reversing 4 minutes for the rest of the world.
The infinite number of events were created (somehow?) but never destroyed. The event which happened 4 minutes ago is gone in "our time" but that event did not disappear, we are like frames in a movie, the movie may have played to the end, but the frames of the opening scene is still there. No need to reverse 4 minutes of time, just find and go back to where the current event was caused.
 
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Most of the time travel stories are stuck in the geocentric model.
If a time traveler only travels through time, he'll find himself in space somewhere, because Earth is moving, the Solar System is moving, the galaxy is moving....
You have to be able to travel through space as well as time to end up back on Earth.
Now excuse me, I have to investigate this British blue police box that just appeared in my driveway
 

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