The range also gave them the 28th if they need it.
Sounds like your saying the Constellation program is a jobs program, make work for engineers. If Constellation was efficient enough so that only half the people were needed to develop and/or operate it, would this be a good thing (reduced cost) or a bad thing (reduced jobs)?nessia":1t2ec45c said:I hope we go forward with the orion/ares project by NASA. It gives jobs to thousands of people
There is always dueling hijacking going on. The current Constellation "plan of record" is being heavily promoted by the businesses that currently benefit from it (like ATK). I recently saw a full page article in Aviation Week & Space Technology promoting the current effort and dismissing the alternatives, and Congress members (like Senator Shelby) will fight to keep money flowing into their district or state.mr_mark":1wfnajd3 said:I'm looking forward to this launch but, I'm afraid the whole program has been hijacked by business and political forces and it may be a very long time before a NASA derived vehicle is able to launch humans or cargo. This is good for companies like Spacex and Orbital Sciences but very bad for NASA.
I hope SpaceX succeeds on this launch, but it took them several attempts to get a fully successful Falcon 1 launch.mr_mark":1wfnajd3 said:Spacex is already launching a test Dragon capsule prototype at the end of this year on their new human rated and fully flight ready Falcon 9 launcher.
nessia":1jozbkmk said:I hope we go forward with the orion/ares project by NASA. It gives jobs to thousands of people and is
a source of pride for americans. It only needs 1-2 billion a year to remain on schedule.....perhaps we should
all send $5. to Nasa to keep it going. I am ashamed of the fact that we have 100 B2 bombers at 10 billion a shot,
not to mention maintenance, and can't get this puny capsule off the ground and to the moon. I think all
americans should be very embarassed by whats happening! Chicago USA....Nessia
Schizophrenic?Eman_3":2sjqe9jk said:This launch reeks of politics. Sadly, but that's just how business is done these days. NASA cannot afford a disaster, but it also has to demonstrate to everyone that the Aries program is moving forward. ... Despite this, there are still countless new components and systems that have to prove themselves during this upcoming flight. It's a worthwhile mission, and regardless of the outcome, valuable data will be collected.
From SPACE NEWS
10/20/09 07:11 PM ET
Augustine Panelist Endorses Sticking with Ares 1
By Amy Klamper
http://www.spacenews.com/civil/augustin ... orses.html
WASHINGTON -- Two days before a blue-ribbon panel’s final report on options for the U.S. human spaceflight program is due, a key panelist issued a strong personal endorsement of the NASA’s existing plan to go back to the Moon with the Orion Crew Exploration Vehicle and Ares family of rockets.
“I’m a rocket engineer, a rocket scientist. I’m a big, big believer in the need for rocket technology, so I personally want to see Ares 1 going and the program going as it’s currently structured,” said retired Air Force Gen. Lester Lyles, a member of the White House-appointed Review of U.S. Human Space Flight Plans Committee led by former Lockheed Martin chief Norm Augustine.
Lyles, who led the Augustine panel’s subcommittee on interagency and international cooperation, said while it may be prudent to study other options, he would not want to “disrupt” what he considers a successful program.
“When I say successful, I mean they’re meeting most of their milestones, if not all of them, and seem to be technically doing the right thing,” said Lyles, who spoke Oct. 20 during a luncheon hosted by Women in Aerospace and the Washington Space Business Roundtable here, two days before the Augustine panel is slated to release its final report at an Oct. 22 press conference here. A summary report released in September said that NASA's current program was "unsustainable" without a substantial budget boost and laid out several options for a U.S. human spaceflight program that did not include the Ares 1 rocket under development since 2005.
During his talk, Lyles said Augustine would address criticism of the panel’s cost estimates, conducted by Los Angeles-based Aerospace Corp., during the press conference.
“We know since the initial summary of the report came out there’s been some criticism, some comments about cost analysis that we did, and some comments from a lot of circles as to whether or not, why we did not endorse the program of record strongly enough,” Lyles said. “I thought we had, and I think that might be one of the things you’ll hear Norm address on Thursday.”