Ares 1X Processing

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PistolPete

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Nice find.&nbsp; As much as I dislike the Ares 1, I find it interesting and pleasurable to see it come together.&nbsp; I would rather have NASA return to the Moon on an inefficient, over-priced rocket than not return to the Moon at all. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><em>So, again we are defeated. This victory belongs to the farmers, not us.</em></p><p><strong>-Kambei Shimada from the movie Seven Samurai</strong></p> </div>
 
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frodo1008

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Nice find.&nbsp; As much as I dislike the Ares 1, I find it interesting and pleasurable to see it come together.&nbsp; I would rather have NASA return to the Moon on an inefficient, over-priced rocket than not return to the Moon at all. <br /> Posted by PistolPete</DIV></p><p>Me too!</p><p>But there is indeed at least some hope in the COTS program that NASA is eventually going to start to use pure private aerospace interests to even design, let alone build equipment, to get at least to orbit. From COTS with pure material only capsules to get to ISS there will hopefully be an expansion to manned ships to get to LEO, and eventually even to the moon itself.&nbsp; </p><p>NASA is slow, and sometimes even awkward, but it IS sure! </p>
 
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kelvinzero

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<p>I couldnt follow that link for some reason but I think I found the story.</p><p>Always good news to hear of some progress. I dont understand the issues about Ares 1 but I hope this means they are evolving a really good team for Ares V.</p>
 
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montmein69

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Is it of absolutely no interest (or too expensive, or too difficult ?) to recover the second stage linked to the mock-up of Orion at the end of the flight ? Even if they are an inert payload, looking at the structure&nbsp; (shape, deformation) could give some information ? Maybe there are enough sensors to collect valuable data ? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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trailrider

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Is it of absolutely no interest (or too expensive, or too difficult ?) to recover the second stage linked to the mock-up of Orion at the end of the flight ? Even if they are an inert payload, looking at the structure&nbsp; (shape, deformation) could give some information ? Maybe there are enough sensors to collect valuable data ? <br />Posted by montmein69</DIV><br /><br />Most likely NOT. The aerodynamic loads won't be near enough the same as the "final" vehicle, and the downrange distance probably too far for Freedom Star or Liberty Star to travel.&nbsp; Not to mention the cost of creating a parachute recovery subsystem to lower the second stage slowly enough to prevent major (probably 'fatal') damage.</p><p>This whole thing presupposes the Ares I or even the whole Constellation program gets funded! Right now the House-passed HR-1 didn't provide ANY money for human spaceflight activities.&nbsp;:(&nbsp; If the Senate doesn't pass the funding, and then get the House to go along in Conference, we may be dead in the water after Shuttle is grounded! <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-cry.gif" border="0" alt="Cry" title="Cry" /></p><p>Ad LEO! Ad Luna! Ad Ares! Ad Astra! (I hope...)</p>
 
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tanstaafl76

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<p>I really gotta get into the logo design business, they must make a killing off of NASA!</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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earth_bound_misfit

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Progress on the stack and facility modifications:http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=166 <br /> Posted by shuttle_guy</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Thanks! Dave, do you have any involvement with this project?</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p> </p><p>----------------------------------------------------------------- </p><p>Wanna see this site looking like the old SDC uplink?</p><p>Go here to see how: <strong>SDC Eye saver </strong>  </p> </div>
 
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shuttle_guy

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;Thanks! Dave, do you have any involvement with this project? <br />Posted by earth_bound_misfit</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>No, I am just an interested observer. I have yet to go into the VAB to see the simulated upper stage and space craft</p><p>However I plan to do so this week if I get off the console.</p><p><br /><br />&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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rocketwatcher2001

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<p>This thing is going to be about 300 feet tall, right?&nbsp; This will be the tallest rocket I've ever seen stacked up.&nbsp; I can't wait to see it fly.&nbsp; This will be the first single solid booster rocket I've seen.&nbsp; I never got a chance to see any of the ICBM tests that flew from CCAFS years ago.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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rybanis

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;No, I am just an interested observer. I have yet to go into the VAB to see the simulated upper stage and space craftHowever I plan to do so this week if I get off the console.&nbsp; <br /> Posted by shuttle_guy</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Very interesting info, SG. As someone who has seen the VAB in person ONCE in their life, a question: how often to you go over to the VAB? When I was there it felt like I was in Mecca, but how does it feel for you, being a part of your job? Do you feel excitement? </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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vulture4

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<p>>>the downrange distance probably too far for Freedom Star or Liberty Star to travel.</p><p>This I can at least answer. The SRB retrieval ships have a cuising range of several thousand miles, fully fueled. </p><p>However it's hard to see how much would be learned from the dummy upper stage. For that matter, it isn't clear (at least to me) whether reuse of the SRB is economically justified. </p>
 
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