<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Too much for a vehicle designed to fly a spacecraft to land on the Moon and never have to handle even 1G. The more ascent Gs the more the payload has to be beefed up to take the loads.Another big problem is that the 3 or 4 SRBs and 5 RS-68s can not throttle down enough to get through max Q successfully.There there is the host of facility impacts.......... <br /> Posted by shuttle_guy</DIV></p><p>Now, the original concept of Ares V was some 4 shuttle type 4 segment SRB's and 4 RS68's, right? And this would allow 60 tons to the moon's surface, instead of the 45 tons for the Apollo, again right?</p><p>Then, NASA has now decided that 60 tons would not now be enough to allow some 4 people to get to the surface of the moon for 2 full weeks, instead of Apollo's 2 people to the surface for some 4 - 5 days max, again right?</p><p>What I originally then thought was that the main problem was with the Ares I which was why NASA needed the 5 segment SRB?</p><p>At that time there was supposedly no problem with the Ares V?</p><p>What I am trying to do here SG is to establish NASA's parameters in my own mind for going back to the moon.</p><p>Se evidently, the same thing that happened with the capability of the Ares I is now happening with the original capability of the Ares V? </p><p>Are these the mission parameters so far for the original concept?</p><p>Now, for the costs. Even with the original concepts the cost of the program to send us back to the moon was going to be some $106 billion, and that was with just using the already established shuttle components of the regular 4 segment SRB and a single already built SSME for the second stage of the Ares I? So now with the changes to even the Ares I about how much is going to be added to the original costs? </p><p>Now then, aside form the technical problems that you say this new Ares V concept wopuld cause (and I have no doubt that the problems are fully as bad as you state them to be) there is going to be a relatively enourmous boost in the over all cost of the Ares V for this with a rresulting increase in the over-all cost of the total program. So the already somewhat high $106 billlion pver all costs of the entire program. Admittedly spent over some 15 years, but still just about all that NASA's budget can handle even with the shuttle being retired, and the ISS costs going way down. Once again, am I correct here?</p><p>So now the program costs would go up to the $150 billion dollar range if both the original Ares I AND the Ares V have to be so modified?</p><p>Now, if I as a retired ex aerospace manufacturing worker with relatively little cost experience can see this, what about the cost accountants of congress? </p><p>So SG, am I somewhat within the ball park here, or am I missing something?</p><p>Just inquiring, is all!! </p>
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