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montmein69

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The launch is scheduled for the second half of february.<br />http://www.hq.nasa.gov/osf/iss_reports/index.htm<br /><font color="yellow"><br />02/07/08 -- Progress M-63/28P launch<br />02/09/08 -- Progress M-63/28P docking (DC1)<br />02/22/08(NET) -- ATV-1 “Jules Verne†launch/Ariane V (Kourou, French Guyana)</font><br /><br /><br />Photos of the ATV cargo preparation.<br /><br />http://www.arianespace.com/site/news/news_sub_missionupdate_index.html <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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Seeing it with the people standing next to it, that thing is alot bigger then I thought it'd be. Can't wait to see it finally fly. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font size="2" color="#0000ff">""Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." --Albert Einstein"</font></p> </div>
 
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Interesting that the ATV uses MMH and MON (modified oxides of nitrogen?) while the Russian segment uses UDMH and N2O4. Four different hypergolic propellants on one vehicle. The Shuttle of course uses yet anotehr combination, MMH and N2O4.
 
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MON = Mixed Oxides of Nitrogen<br />http://www.astronautix.com/props/monmmh.htm<br /><br />Surprising how much MMH costs (as per that link). Accounting for inflation, the price per kilo has nearly doubled since '59.<br /><br />It is interesting the various propellants being lofted. Is this uncommon or relatively routine? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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holmec

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Curious, what is the minimum amount of time that is required between STS-122 launch and ATV launch? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#0000ff"><em>"SCE to AUX" - John Aaron, curiosity pays off</em></font></p> </div>
 
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"Curious, what is the minimum amount of time that is required between STS-122 launch and ATV launch?"<br /><br />There is no minimum in the usual sense. The ATV can loiter before docking up to something like 28 days. And it will go through some testing for some number of days. So technically they could launch the same day or within a week or two of each other. The bigger issue is that they both use TDRS and there is a limited number of antennae available. 1E was going to test a virtual space craft concept for ATV where ISS uses the S-band part of an antenna and the Shuttle simultaneoulsy uses the K band so ATV used use a second antenna. In addition, you have the fact that all the dynamic (docking, undocking, loss of control) was done assuming no ATV so that would have to be redone. The next biggest constraint would be the sleep shift of the ISS crew between dockings and some time off between the two.
 
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Technically that is not official yet. IN the review last week part of ESA said Feb 27 and part, inlcuding Arianspace, said March 8. ESA has an action to figure it out and it should be decided tomorrow. Likely it will be March 8 because procedures are not ready.
 
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holmec

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ATV Launch is set for the next launch for Ariane Space. Scheduled to occur in March 8, 2008. ArianeSpace lauch status<br /><br />ESA ATV article <br /><blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>ESA PR 08-2008. After the successful launch of ESA’s Columbus laboratory aboard Space Shuttle Atlantis on Thursday (7 February), it is now time to focus on the next imminent milestone for ESA: the launch of Jules Verne, the first Automated Transfer Vehicle (ATV) to be sent to the International Space Station.<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#0000ff"><em>"SCE to AUX" - John Aaron, curiosity pays off</em></font></p> </div>
 
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MeteorWayne

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>ATV Launch is set for the next launch for Ariane Space. Scheduled to occur in March 8, 2008. ArianeSpace lauch status ESA ATV article In reply to:ESA PR 08-2008. After the successful launch of ESA&rsquo;s Columbus laboratory aboard Space Shuttle Atlantis on Thursday (7 February), it is now time to focus on the next imminent milestone for ESA: the launch of Jules Verne, the first Automated Transfer Vehicle (ATV) to be sent to the International Space Station. <br />Posted by holmec</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Just looking for a thread to bump since this launch is scheduled to take place this Friday/Saturday</p><p>&nbsp;From spaceflightnow:</p><p><strong><font size="1">Launch time:</font></strong><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"> <font color="#ff0000">0359 GMT on 9th (10:59 p.m. EST on March 8)</font><br /><strong>Launch site:</strong> ELA-3, Kourou, French Guiana<br /><img src="http://null/images/grafix/spacer.gif" alt="" width="392" height="5" /><br />The Arianespace Ariane 5 rocket will launch the European Space Agency's first Automated Transfer Vehicle, named Jules Verne. The ATV is a cargo-carrying spacecraft to deliver supplies and equipment to the orbiting International Space Station.</font><br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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Tez

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<p>Launch is to be shown live on NASA-TV</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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MeteorWayne

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>The launch is scheduled for the second half of february. http://www.hq.nasa.gov/osf/iss_reports/index.htm 02/07/08 -- Progress M-63/28P launch 02/09/08 -- Progress M-63/28P docking (DC1) 02/22/08(NET) -- ATV-1 &acirc;&euro;&oelig;Jules Verne&acirc;&euro; launch/Ariane V (Kourou, French Guyana) Photos of the ATV cargo preparation. http://www.arianespace.com/site/news/news_sub_missionupdate_index.html <br />Posted by montmein69</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Please don't use the yellow font.</p><p>It's not readable at all on my browser.<br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;Please don't use the yellow font.It's not readable at all on my browser. <br /> Posted by meteorwayne</DIV></p><p>I hear you!</p><p>Anyways, I'm really interested in this launch. Unfortunately, I have to work that day, so I can't watch it live :(&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'><font color="#008000">&nbsp;Please don't use the yellow font.It's not readable at all on my browser. <br /> Posted by meteorwayne</font></DIV></p><p>I believe that the yellow font is a holdover from Uplink.&nbsp; It showed up better there than on this white background here.<br /> </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#808080"> Board users see you as: PistolPete <em>(Jonathon Payne)</em>, </font><font color="#ff6600"><strong>solar system</strong></font><font color="#808080">, with 2491 posts</font></p> </div>
 
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MeteorWayne

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<p><br />spaceflightnow reports all is well.</p><p>"<font color="#ff0000">Liftoff of Jules Verne at the tip of a beefed up Ariane 5 rocket is set for 0403:04 GMT Sunday (11:03:04 p.m. EST Saturday) from the European-controlled spaceport in Kourou, French Guiana. The launch is timed for the instant Earth's rotation brings the ELA-3 launch pad into the space station's orbital path. </font></p><p><font color="#ff0000">Senior leaders representing the European Space Agency, Arianespace, contractors, and other international partners met Wednesday in a launch readiness review to clear the mission for flight.</font> "</p><p>http://www.spaceflightnow.com/ariane/v181/preview.html</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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Jules Verne will be parked 1200 miles ahead of ISS while waiting for Endeavour to leave. Roughly, how far apart is that time-wise with a fly over? I know the shuttle typically parks 20-40 miles away after undocking while they prepare for de-orbit. That's a seperation of only a few seconds and a few dozen degrees as you look up at the sky. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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holmec

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Jules Verne will be parked 1200 miles ahead of ISS while waiting for Endeavour to leave. Roughly, how far apart is that time-wise with a fly over? I know the shuttle typically parks 20-40 miles away after undocking while they prepare for de-orbit. That's a seperation of only a few seconds and a few dozen degrees as you look up at the sky. <br />Posted by Crr</DIV></p><p>Busy Busy, like grand central station</p><p>Arianespace is showing launch time at <font size="1"><span class="level1_text">03:59 a.m. UTC<br />on March 9, 2008</span></font></p><font size="1"><span class="level1_text">So that's about 9:59pm Central....a few hours before daylight savings.</span></font><font size="1"> <p>&nbsp;</p></font> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#0000ff"><em>"SCE to AUX" - John Aaron, curiosity pays off</em></font></p> </div>
 
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What date and time is docking planned for? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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hewes

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>What date and time is docking planned for? <br />Posted by bobble_bob</DIV></p><p>April 3rd.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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MeteorWayne

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>What date and time is docking planned for? <br />Posted by bobble_bob</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>IIRC, it's after the shuttle leaves, so the exact date and time would be hard to predict.</p><p>Also again, from what I recall, it will dock and undock more than once.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;IIRC, it's after the shuttle leaves, so the exact date and time would be hard to predict.Also again, from what I recall, <strong>it will dock and undock more than once</strong>. <br />Posted by meteorwayne</DIV></p><p>Cool didnt know it could do that<br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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MeteorWayne

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Cool didnt know it could do that <br />Posted by bobble_bob</DIV></p><p>Yes, since this is really the shakedown cruise, they plan to do a number of experiments with rendevous and docking to test how all the systems perform.</p><p>I must have learned this from a NASA TV Presser at some time or another.<br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'> <font color="#0000ff">Roughly, how far apart is that time-wise with a fly over? </font><font color="#0000ff">Posted by Crr</font></DIV></p><p>In round figures, they are moving at about five miles per second. That makes it about three minutes.</p><p>'Verne will be doing a lot of maneuvering during the checkout so no hard times are possible yet.</p><p>Keep checking the heavens_above, and NASA tracking sites for the most recent info.</p><p><br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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<p>Here's a photo of Southland, New Zealand's, exciting contribution to the ATV mission.&nbsp; It shows ESA Astronaut, Roberto Vittori, standing in front of the tracking and data relay dish at Awarua Tracking Station.&nbsp; Awarua will provide telemetry to mission controllers as the ATV <em>Jules Verne </em>passes just south of NZ at approximately 65 & 110 minutes into flight.&nbsp; Awarua will be monitoring the second stage burn on the first pass, and ATV sep about three minutes into the second pass.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><br /><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/2/3/22b823e9-aa02-464d-a3e5-4a0d43c7ccb8.Medium.jpg" alt="" /><br />Image Credit: Jill McKee/Southland Times</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>SK</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em><font size="2" color="#ff0000">Who is this superhero?  Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!</font></em></p><p><em><font size="2">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></em></p><p><font size="5">Bring Back The Black!</font></p> </div>
 
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Photos of Ariane 5 on the pad<br /><br />http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?mission=Automated+Transfer+Vehicle+%28ATV%29&type=I <br /><br /><br /><font color="#00ccff">Watch the ATV launch Live<br /><br />7 March 2008<br />Jules Verne, ESA's first Automated Transfer Vehicle is set for lift-off from Europe's Spaceport in Kourou, French Guiana, at 05:03 CET (04:03 UT), on Sunday 9 March. Watch the Launch live via web streaming. The launch transmission starts at 04:03 CET (03:03 UT) on 9 March, and will continue for 86 mins after the launch. For the latest updates see the: ATV Blog<br /><br />http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/ATV/SEM35OK26DF_0.html </font><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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