Babylon 5 vs. Battlestar Galactica

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bdewoody

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Now that BSG is complete I think Bab 5 was a better overall series. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <em><font size="2">Bob DeWoody</font></em> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Now that BSG is complete I think Bab 5 was a better overall series. Posted by bdewoody</DIV></p><p>BSG isn't done yet.</p><p>As far as comparing the two, I think that Bab5 had an excellent plot and some killer twists, but BSG has really been able to pull off "space-sci-fi-drama" really, really well.&nbsp; It's a wash in that department.</p><p>Also, BSG hasn't had the number of episodes Bab5 had.&nbsp; 73 scheduled episodes for BSG and 110 for Bab5.&nbsp; Those don't count the movies and minis either.</p><p>I'm a big Bab5 fan and a big BSG fan.&nbsp; I can't really chose between the two. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Now that BSG is complete I think Bab 5 was a better overall series. <br /> Posted by bdewoody</DIV></p><p>Babylon-5 is the only TV series I own on DVD. &nbsp;I would never consider buying BSG, even though I think it's been an awesome science fiction drama. &nbsp;It can be a very disturbing experience to watch BSG. &nbsp;I never felt that way watching Bab-5. &nbsp;So far, B-5 is still tops in my book, too.....even though it's computer graphics seem primitive by today's standards.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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<p><font size="3">Yeah, I agree that BSG is quite disturbing most of the time. it's a very dark&nbsp;and drab show. In a tramatic situation like that, you think people would be trying anything to cheer the place up and turn up the lights. It can't be because they are low on power with all the jumping&nbsp; they do and the continuous acceleration from their engines. Even from the orginal series to the new BSG, for the most part it seems that their rockets are going all the time. If they've harnested that much power, then turn up those darn lights and paint a few walls!</font></p><p><font size="3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I love both series too, but I don't thing that BSG can hold a candle (oooo, a bad pun) to the quality of B5.</font></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font size="4" color="#0000ff"><strong>Aretis</strong></font></p> </div>
 
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<p>I find it impossible to choose, because each is essentially an entirely different series and story.</p><p>For a hypothetical future involving multiple galactic empires, intrigue, and a naive species "coming of age," B5 cannot be beat.&nbsp; I am a huge fan of the series.</p><p>BSG is dark and disturbing, and I think is one of the finest series of it's type.&nbsp; It plausibly shows what might be, how people would be, under such pressure.</p><p>So in each Science Fiction sub-genre, each is truly awesome.&nbsp; IMHO. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>
 
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<font size="3">How many of us think it's about time to bring it back say as a replacement for Enterprise?</font> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <em><font size="2">Bob DeWoody</font></em> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>How many of us think it's about time to bring it back say as a replacement for Enterprise? <br /> Posted by bdewoody</DIV></p><p>I'm one of the few that actually likes Enterprise.&nbsp; But, I'd love to see Bab5 back too! </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Now that BSG is complete I think Bab 5 was a better overall series. <br />Posted by bdewoody</DIV><br /><br />Babylon 5 was one of my favorite series which I always wished they would have done a Babylon 6 or a prequel about the Babylon 1 through 4 stations.&nbsp; But, I can't compare BSG to Babylon 5.&nbsp; To me, they are two different animals.&nbsp; BSG has probably the best scifi realism I have ever seen.&nbsp; They really went for the Human interaction in such dire situations.&nbsp; The plot twist in BSG were nearly brilliant, granted, will have to wait and see how the final plot twist turns out.</p><p>IMHO, Babylon 5 and BSG are in two&nbsp;leages of their own with both having very unique characteristics.&nbsp; I would however but B5 and Firefly into the same category.&nbsp; I just bought the entire Firefly series and right now, pretty impressed.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><br /><img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Babylon 5 was one of my favorite series which I always wished they would have done a Babylon 6 or a prequel about the Babylon 1 through 4 stations.&nbsp; But, I can't compare BSG to Babylon 5.&nbsp; To me, they are two different animals.&nbsp; BSG has probably the best scifi realism I have ever seen.&nbsp; They really went for the Human interaction in such dire situations.&nbsp; The plot twist in BSG were nearly brilliant, granted, will have to wait and see how the final plot twist turns out.IMHO, Babylon 5 and BSG are in two&nbsp;leages of their own with both having very unique characteristics.&nbsp; I would however but B5 and Firefly into the same category.&nbsp; I just bought the entire Firefly series and right now, pretty impressed.&nbsp; &nbsp; <br /> Posted by bearack</DIV></p><p>Of course, B1-B3 would all be very short stories, since all three were sabotaged before completion.&nbsp; ;-)&nbsp; B4 could be an interesting story, as that would be the story of the *last* Shadow War.&nbsp; (B4 was taken back in time to fight the Shadows.)&nbsp; B6 would not exist; when Babylon 5 is self-destructed 20 years in the future in the final episode, it is because the Babylon Project is no longer needed.&nbsp; The Interstellar Alliance is operating out of Minbar.&nbsp; Earth doesn't need B5, and B5 is no longer commercially viable on its own.&nbsp; So it is disposed of.&nbsp; And JMS does a cameo as the janitor who literally turns out the lights.&nbsp; ;-)</p><p>I would've liked to have seen a series about the Telepath War, though. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Of course, B1-B3 would all be very short stories, since all three were sabotaged before completion.&nbsp; ;-)&nbsp; B4 could be an interesting story, as that would be the story of the *last* Shadow War.&nbsp; (B4 was taken back in time to fight the Shadows.)&nbsp; B6 would not exist; when Babylon 5 is self-destructed 20 years in the future in the final episode, it is because the Babylon Project is no longer needed.&nbsp; The Interstellar Alliance is operating out of Minbar.&nbsp; Earth doesn't need B5, and B5 is no longer commercially viable on its own.&nbsp; So it is disposed of.&nbsp; And JMS does a cameo as the janitor who literally turns out the lights.&nbsp; ;-)I would've liked to have seen a series about the Telepath War, though. <br />Posted by CalliArcale</DIV><br /><br />Actually, I was thinking incorporating the b1-b3 sabotage with the b4 shadow wars.&nbsp; Could get another 110 shows out of it.</p><p>I was thinking another storyline for b6 could be the Minbari coming back into power well after their defeat to Sheridan. Kinda of like the&nbsp;history to Germany where they were defeated in WWI&nbsp;and then rose again to fight another WW.</p><p>How much I liked the series.&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><br /><img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /></p> </div>
 
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Bab5 without Londo (Peter Jurasik) just wouldn't be the same for me.&nbsp; He was, IMO, the "scene stealer" of Babylon 5.&nbsp; I mean that in a good way.&nbsp; His character was simply amazing and I haven't seen another quite like it on any series.&nbsp; As a matter of fact, the interplay between Londo and other characters, especially G'Kar (Andreas Katsulas) made the series for me.&nbsp; Of course, I enjoyed all the other characters and especially the storylines.&nbsp; But, "characters" are really, really important to me and I'd be leery of a Bab5 spinoff.&nbsp; The very same attention to character building and very deep storyline would have to plainly evident before I'd consider diluting my Bab5 experience with the offerings of a spinoff.&nbsp; Simply put, I'd be afraid of a spinoff.&nbsp; I liked Bab5 that much. :) <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Bab5 without Londo (Peter Jurasik) just wouldn't be the same for me.&nbsp; He was, IMO, the "scene stealer" of Babylon 5.&nbsp; I mean that in a good way.&nbsp; His character was simply amazing and I haven't seen another quite like it on any series.&nbsp; As a matter of fact, the interplay between Londo and other characters, especially G'Kar (Andreas Katsulas) made the series for me.&nbsp; Of course, I enjoyed all the other characters and especially the storylines.&nbsp; But, "characters" are really, really important to me and I'd be leery of a Bab5 spinoff.&nbsp; The very same attention to character building and very deep storyline would have to plainly evident before I'd consider diluting my Bab5 experience with the offerings of a spinoff.&nbsp; Simply put, I'd be afraid of a spinoff.&nbsp; I liked Bab5 that much. :) <br /> Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV></p><p>It would be really neat to see something about Centauri Prime, with Londo and Vir at the center of it.&nbsp; I would indeed depend on actor availability.&nbsp; As far as I know, there's no impediment to getting Peter Jurasik; he's retired, but has said that he'd come out of retirement for B5.&nbsp; And of course Stephen Furst is still around. </p><p>But there are a couple of characters they can't get back.&nbsp; Dr Stephen Franklin, for one.&nbsp; Richard Biggs, the actor who played him, passed away quite unexpectedly a few years ago.&nbsp; He was in the prime of life, fit as a fiddle -- or so everyone thought.&nbsp; One day, he went to bed and never got up again.&nbsp; His heart had failed during the night due to aortic dissection, a rapidly lethal condition that can be caused by a whole host of health conditions that aren't always apparent. </p><p>An even bigger loss to the series is Andreas Katsulas, who succumbed to lung cancer more recently.&nbsp; An avid smoker throughout his life, when he was diagnosed with lung cancer he immediately quit cold turkey and made massive changes to his lifestyle, living healthy.&nbsp; He knew it wouldn't be enough to save him, but it probably extended his remaining months and certainly improved his quality of life -- he remarked to friends that since learning that he was about to die, he never felt better.&nbsp; (A rather G'Kar sort of thing to say, really.&nbsp; He *made* that character in so many ways.)&nbsp; You could work around the loss of Stephen Franklin, but I'm not sure you could work around the loss of G'Kar.&nbsp; It wouldn't be the same.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>It would be really neat to see something about Centauri Prime, with Londo and Vir at the center of it.&nbsp; I would indeed depend on actor availability.&nbsp; As far as I know, there's no impediment to getting Peter Jurasik; he's retired, but has said that he'd come out of retirement for B5.&nbsp; And of course Stephen Furst is still around. But there are a couple of characters they can't get back.&nbsp; Dr Stephen Franklin, for one.&nbsp; Richard Biggs, the actor who played him, passed away quite unexpectedly a few years ago.&nbsp; He was in the prime of life, fit as a fiddle -- or so everyone thought.&nbsp; One day, he went to bed and never got up again.&nbsp; His heart had failed during the night due to aortic dissection, a rapidly lethal condition that can be caused by a whole host of health conditions that aren't always apparent. An even bigger loss to the series is Andreas Katsulas, who succumbed to lung cancer more recently.&nbsp; An avid smoker throughout his life, when he was diagnosed with lung cancer he immediately quit cold turkey and made massive changes to his lifestyle, living healthy.&nbsp; He knew it wouldn't be enough to save him, but it probably extended his remaining months and certainly improved his quality of life -- he remarked to friends that since learning that he was about to die, he never felt better.&nbsp; (A rather G'Kar sort of thing to say, really.&nbsp; He *made* that character in so many ways.)&nbsp; You could work around the loss of Stephen Franklin, but I'm not sure you could work around the loss of G'Kar.&nbsp; It wouldn't be the same. Posted by CalliArcale</DIV></p><p>I had forgotten about those deaths. :(&nbsp; Katsulas would definitely be irreplaceable and he'd be a very expected addition in any storyline involving Londo.&nbsp; I'd love to see a Cent Prime storyline that did a sort of side-story.&nbsp; I had overlooked Vir in my above post.&nbsp; I was more than pleasantly surprised to see Furst do such a great job with Vir!&nbsp; I really hadn't seen him do much since Animal House and that isn't exactly an Oscar-a-minute material.&nbsp; As "Flounder" I wouldn't pay much attention to him.&nbsp; As "Vir" he established himself as a true professional in my mind and really did a great performance of character acting. </p><p>I was glad Bill Mumy landed the part of Lennier as well.&nbsp; While I didn't like the character that much, it moved him far away from the old "Lost In Space" personae of "Will."&nbsp; I think he did a great job with it. </p><p>I'm definitely going to have to pick that series up.&nbsp; I used to have it on VHS, but the quality wasn't great.&nbsp; I keep forgetting to pickup the boxed DVD set. :/</p><p>I don't think you could work around the loss of G'Kar either, especially in a Cent Prime/Londo story.&nbsp; Even a story involving his death or disappearance would have conflicts with the main storyline in Bab5 canon.&nbsp; BUT, Bab5 was a groundbreaking CGI show.&nbsp; Who knows?&nbsp; Maybe they could break new ground again by doing what everyone in Hollywood wants to do but can't : Resurrect dead actors and put them back on the screen!&nbsp; Hollywood necromancy - It's going to make billions one day. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Maybe they could break new ground again by doing what everyone in Hollywood wants to do but can't : Resurrect dead actors and put them back on the screen!&nbsp; Hollywood necromancy - It's going to make billions one day. Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV><br /><br />I absolutely foresee this happening.&nbsp; You know the first entertainment company that does this will make billions with the first release.</p><p>John Wayne and Lindsey Lohan in "You've been punked" ....... I can see it now <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-foot-in-mouth.gif" border="0" alt="Foot in mouth" title="Foot in mouth" /></p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><br /><img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>....John Wayne and Lindsey Lohan in "You've been punked" ....... I can see it now &nbsp; Posted by bearack</DIV></p><p>ROFL!</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>It would be really neat to see something about Centauri Prime, with Londo and Vir at the center of it.&nbsp; I would indeed depend on actor availability.&nbsp; As far as I know, there's no impediment to getting Peter Jurasik; he's retired, but has said that he'd come out of retirement for B5.&nbsp; And of course Stephen Furst is still around. But there are a couple of characters they can't get back.&nbsp; Dr Stephen Franklin, for one.&nbsp; Richard Biggs, the actor who played him, passed away quite unexpectedly a few years ago.&nbsp; He was in the prime of life, fit as a fiddle -- or so everyone thought.&nbsp; One day, he went to bed and never got up again.&nbsp; His heart had failed during the night due to aortic dissection, a rapidly lethal condition that can be caused by a whole host of health conditions that aren't always apparent. An even bigger loss to the series is Andreas Katsulas, who succumbed to lung cancer more recently.&nbsp; An avid smoker throughout his life, when he was diagnosed with lung cancer he immediately quit cold turkey and made massive changes to his lifestyle, living healthy.&nbsp; He knew it wouldn't be enough to save him, but it probably extended his remaining months and certainly improved his quality of life -- he remarked to friends that since learning that he was about to die, he never felt better.&nbsp; (A rather G'Kar sort of thing to say, really.&nbsp; He *made* that character in so many ways.)&nbsp; You could work around the loss of Stephen Franklin, but I'm not sure you could work around the loss of G'Kar.&nbsp; It wouldn't be the same. <br /> Posted by CalliArcale</DIV></p><p>Didn't G'Kar and Lyta Alexander leave Babylon-5 in the final episode, or next-to-final episode, in Ambassador Kosh's old ship, in a sort of open-ended voyage of exploration? &nbsp;That would have made a good sequel!</p><p>Very sad about Richard Biggs......I hadn't known that he had died. &nbsp;The last time I saw Andreas Katsulas was on an episode of <span style="font-style:italic" class="Apple-style-span">Enterprise, </span>which was a delight. &nbsp;I've never seen any other cast member in any production since the series ended, except Bruce Boxleitner in some trashy Sci-Fi Channel series, and Andrea Thompson, who gave up acting and became an anchor on CNN.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I find it impossible to choose, because each is essentially an entirely different series and story.For a hypothetical future involving multiple galactic empires, intrigue, and a naive species "coming of age," B5 cannot be beat.&nbsp; I am a huge fan of the series.BSG is dark and disturbing, and I think is one of the finest series of it's type.&nbsp; It plausibly shows what might be, how people would be, under such pressure.So in each Science Fiction sub-genre, each is truly awesome.&nbsp; IMHO. <br />Posted by yevaud</DIV><br /><br /><span><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="2">I can agree that such a &lsquo;Differential Diagnosis&rsquo; can&rsquo;t really be done on B5 and BSG. All we can is point out pros and cons about the series.&nbsp; </font></font></span><span><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="2">I think both series are too great to deserve any critic for what&rsquo;s missing. I am certain that the writers did think of all that the viewers miss, but cuts have to be done when it comes to production. Just note all the spin-offs.&nbsp;</font></font></span><span><font face="Times New Roman" size="2">&nbsp;</font></span></p><p><span><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="2">I even suspect that the successful trilogy &lsquo;Terminator&rsquo; is basically based on a few events of the BSG 1980 10 episode miniseries. The BSG Remake seems to start out where Terminator ends and the spinoff Caprica might become a Terminator series. Didn&rsquo;t the whole idea start out with the classic Metropolis? And didn&rsquo;t the original BSG settings look much like the first Starwars trilogy? They&rsquo;re interrelated.</font></font></span><span><font face="Times New Roman" size="2">&nbsp;</font></span></p><p><span><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="2">I am still waiting for a final B5 season. I think the season 5 did not quite concluded the story line. The main characters do however chat about the faith of the&nbsp;human/mimbar child over some cup of tea. Then Sheridan flies over and blows up the closed down B5 like nothing ever happened. I do look forward to the planned spinoffs &lsquo;The Memory of Shadows&rsquo; and &lsquo;The Lost Tales&rsquo;. They might fill in some gaps.</font></font></span><span><font face="Times New Roman" size="2">&nbsp;</font></span></p><p><span><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="2">What I think both series do have in common, is ancient mythologies about aliens. Differential Diagnose That. <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif" border="0" alt="Laughing" title="Laughing" /></font></font></span></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;I've never seen any other cast member in any production since the series ended, except Bruce Boxleitner in some trashy Sci-Fi Channel series <br />Posted by crazyeddie</DIV><br /><br />Bruce Boxleitner is the undisputed, heavy weight, champion of the world,&nbsp; when it comes to cheesy arsed, lameoid, made-for-TV, sci-fi losers</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I saw an episode of "ghost hunters" the other night and they were at the screen actor's guild looking for Boxleitner's dignity.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#ff00ff">Screw you guys...I'm going home:  Eric Cartman</font></p><p><font color="#ff0000"><strong>SILENCE...I KILL YOU!!!!:</strong>  Achmed, the dead terrorist</font></p> </div>
 
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<p>....them's fightin' words, Oscar.&nbsp; :p</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Seriously, it's all a matter of personal opinion, but I thought Boxleitner did an excellent job as Captain Sheridan.&nbsp; The only other thing I've seen him in was "Tron", which was not made-for-TV but actually a big-budget Disney flick with cutting edge (at the time) CGI combined with cel animation and live-action.&nbsp; Unfortunately, the production method was so elaborate that they never did anything like that again.&nbsp; It was just too costly.&nbsp; Fun movie, though.&nbsp; Boxleitner played the program Tron and also his real-world creator, a programmer named Alan.&nbsp; It didn't make a lot of sense (why would the programs be sentient?) but it was fun.</p><p>Tron has another B5 connection, actually.&nbsp; The actuarial program Rom is played by Peter Jurasik. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>
 
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<p>By the way, and not intending to hijack the thread: </p><p>I mentioned this in another thread but since we're talking B5; its creator, J. Michael Straczynski, is writing the script for the coming Marvel Studio's flick "Silver Surfer".&nbsp; Alex Proyas (Dark City, The Crow) directing.&nbsp; Sounds like it'll cover his back story and show Galactus in his full form, which was hidden by the cloud-ship in "F4: Rise of the Silver Surfer".</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Now that BSG is complete I think Bab 5 was a better overall series. <br /> Posted by bdewoody</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Babylon 5 was awesome. BSG was........................................... not awesome. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <em>"2012.. Year of the Dragon!! Get on the Dragon Wagon!".</em> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Of course, B1-B3 would all be very short stories, since all three were sabotaged before completion.&nbsp; ;-)&nbsp; B4 could be an interesting story, as that would be the story of the *last* Shadow War.&nbsp; (B4 was taken back in time to fight the Shadows.)&nbsp; B6 would not exist; when Babylon 5 is self-destructed 20 years in the future in the final episode, it is because the Babylon Project is no longer needed.&nbsp; The Interstellar Alliance is operating out of Minbar.&nbsp; Earth doesn't need B5, and B5 is no longer commercially viable on its own.&nbsp; So it is disposed of.&nbsp; And JMS does a cameo as the janitor who literally turns out the lights.&nbsp; ;-)I would've liked to have seen a series about the Telepath War, though. <br /> Posted by CalliArcale</DIV></p><p>This all got me to thinking. During the series' run, there was always Weird and Mysterious Things happening out on "The Rim". We know the Vorlons, Shadows, and that race of Technowizards (Michael Ansara kicked BUTT, although Gene Simmons might have been just as cool) all jetted out to the Galactic Rim as well as at least one other species that was involved in the Shadow War near the end of the series. Hints and rumors of weirdness and generally Spooky Stuff goin' on out on the edge. </p><p>As a fan of the Series, it would be pretty cool to see it come back with a bunch of adventures out there on that spooky rim. Maybe even have an outpost out there. Like Babylon 6 or something. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <em>"2012.. Year of the Dragon!! Get on the Dragon Wagon!".</em> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I can agree that such a &lsquo;Differential Diagnosis&rsquo; can&rsquo;t really be done on B5 and BSG. All we can is point out pros and cons about the series.&nbsp; I think both series are too great to deserve any critic for what&rsquo;s missing. I am certain that the writers did think of all that the viewers miss, but cuts have to be done when it comes to production. Just note all the spin-offs.&nbsp;&nbsp;I even suspect that the successful trilogy &lsquo;Terminator&rsquo; is basically based on a few events of the BSG 1980 10 episode miniseries. The BSG Remake seems to start out where Terminator ends and the spinoff Caprica might become a Terminator series. Didn&rsquo;t the whole idea start out with the classic Metropolis? And didn&rsquo;t the original BSG settings look much like the first Starwars trilogy? They&rsquo;re interrelated.&nbsp;I am still waiting for a final B5 season. I think the season 5 did not quite concluded the story line. The main characters do however chat about the faith of the&nbsp;human/mimbar child over some cup of tea. Then Sheridan flies over and blows up the closed down B5 like nothing ever happened. I do look forward to the planned spinoffs &lsquo;The Memory of Shadows&rsquo; and &lsquo;The Lost Tales&rsquo;. They might fill in some gaps.&nbsp;What I think both series do have in common, is ancient mythologies about aliens. Differential Diagnose That. <br />Posted by vidargander</DIV></p><p><font size="3">I seem to remember a follow on series called Crusade which featured a bad ass ship called Excalibur.&nbsp; The actor that played the captain was very good and I thought the series had potential.</font></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <em><font size="2">Bob DeWoody</font></em> </div>
 
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