ok,but i hope that nasa or esa will consider this issue.I can say that this can be our first space colony.Remember that one small leap to space colonization is one giant leap of our human history.
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John Wayne said it best;8603103a":1ohqqrcb said:We will build a telescope,bio center and a small town over there,i prefer the town name is Celestia, which means the space town always face the space.But , we have to acheive some tech to permanently providing oxygen on there.Can someone figure out how to provide the gas permanently to the colony.
and who will pay for this rapid improvement???8603103a":17zzpm9s said:you are absolutely wrong,2029 (or 2036) isn't 2010 ,maybe the humans will improve their tech. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Aside from the technological advances such as our space efforts to date have provided us (communications, GPS, improved solar cells, etc), your return on investment would be a lot of people kept gainfully employed doing something constructive.adrenalynn":dpetw4ug said:As a tax-payer, I want to know what my ROI (Return On Investment) would be?
My point being that we need to build a minimal infrastructure upon which private industry can develop - sort of like the internet's progenitor, Arpanet.adrenalynn":2kne7715 said:I'll let this go... My point being that it's private industry's job to put people to work, not the tax payer's. The highway system is infrastructure. People playing footsie on a space rock? Not infrastructure.
csmyth3025":u01x3cg5 said:My point being that we need to build a minimal infrastructure upon which private industry can develop - sort of like the internet's progenitor, Arpanet.
I do agree that an outpost on apophis is not infrastructure, though. Since that's the subject of this thread, I'll have to agree that there are better ways to spend the taxpayer's money.
I don't even think Apophis is being considered for the upcoming asteroid mission, and as MeteorWayne said building an outpost there or even going there is basically pointless because there are much better candidates elsewhere. A town on the moon has always been though up by engineers but it won't spring up overnight. It will require years of government ISRU and science work before we start seeing a small town grow there.8603103a":32vhx9qm said:ok,i agree with some comments that we only build a scientific outpost there only with artifical gravity,the town project we will commence it on the moon.
My point exactly. Why do so many write off the moon as a "been there done that" goal? All the things our young dreamer here wants to do are achieveable on the moon where our first off world colony should be. I would be so proud to watch a colony on the moon begin and grow and it would be far less risky than trying to catch up to a wandering asteroid.MeteorWayne":1v5xmjoa said:Another reality check post. Apophis only comes close to earth (< 0.1 AU) once in the next 18 years. That's in 2 1/2 years.
at 38 times the distance to the moon. After that, it gets no closer until 2029, the very close approach. At that time, it will be moving about 4 km/sec relative to the earth.
So which is better, the moon, a place 1 Lunar Distance away (at all times) moving at 1 km/sec relative to the earth, and 1/6 earth gravity,or an asteroid that is 38 times further away for an instant, moving 4 times as fast that won't be as close again for 16 years, with almost no gravity. Hmmmm
Not really, there are plenty of asteroids to colonize depending on how many hundreds of billions you want to spend, and how many centuries you want to do it in.8603103a":melfsryv said:Ok,i agree that it has better candidates than Apophis,which is the best Near Earth asteroid candidates? Wehaveto do the asteroid colonization before other countries rush up.
The crew would move to an asteroid craft each time a likely asteroid is spotted?neilsox":3sdtamq3 said:It seems to me the best strategy for an asteroid outpost is park the space craft about one kilometer from the ISS = international space station connected by a tether. We reel it in closer to add modules, make repairs and modifications. When ready for the manned flight, the crew of the asteroid craft live on the ISS most of the time moving to the asteroid craft each time a likely asteroid is spotted.
That's quite a big if.neilsox":3sdtamq3 said:The first report has large error bars, but the subsequent reports determine the orbit. If the computer indicates that the asteroid craft can rendezvous softly with this asteroid,
Let me get this straight. When an asteroid's spotted we take off for a journey of hours and softly land on an asteroid?neilsox":3sdtamq3 said:the asteroid craft drops the tether and starts off in the optimum direction in minutes, unless a delay means less fuel or less travel time to the asteroid. For a slow asteroid traveling in the optimum direction the asteroid craft can land hours later instead of days, which reduces the crew radiation exposure.