Clementine spotted Apollo 15 site & fresh impact craters?

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Thought this was interesting.<br /><br />Something for SELENE / Kaguya to follow up on.<br /><br />Apparently Dave Scott & the Late Jim Irwin, disturbed the most lunar regolith around the <br />LM Falcon, than the other Apollo astronauts & also LM Falcon disturbed the lunar soil<br />more than the others. <br /><br />Also there appear to be two fresh impact craters post Apollo nearby.<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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Interesting, this is the first I have heard of this. How long has this been available?
 
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Hi slidelock, your guess is as good as mine. I only came across it by accident, whilst looking<br />for further Apollo 15 lunar science observations. I thought that was most <br />interesting, so posted it here. I was aware that Clementine imaged the entire moon, but<br />not at that level of detail.<br /><br />I did look for similar for the other Apollo sites, after finding this, but there was nothing.<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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April, 2001? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>
 
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Thank you very much telfrow. <br /><br />Nearly 7 years ago. <img src="/images/icons/crazy.gif" /> <br /><br />Wonder it escaped me for so long, as that is the sort of thing I look for.<br /><br />Very interesting, not just the landing site, but also the fresh craters.<br /><br />I would expect JAXA will look at this site with Selene, hope so anyway.<br /><br />IMO the Apollo 15 & 17 sites were the most interesting (although none were boring) <br />& have a soft spot for 15 due to having met the Late Jim Irwin & Alfred Worden in <br />person (Dave Scott was not present unfortunately).<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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ace5

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Were are the conspiracists that claim tha Man has never been on the Moon???
 
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bdewoody

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Do they also belong to the flat earth society? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <em><font size="2">Bob DeWoody</font></em> </div>
 
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MeteorWayne

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You've never heard of the Flat Moon Society?? <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /> <br /><br />It's actually easier since we only see one side of the cardboard cutout anyway. On the earth, people live on the other side of the ball.<br />On the moon, only the aliens and their bases live on the other side....no humans <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /><br /><br />Edited for humorous effect. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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bobblebob

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Impossible to ever prove to them really. Even if you take a pic of the flag in high def they would claim its fake. They clearly dont want to believe scientific evidence
 
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anthmartian

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Very interesting topic Andrew. <br /><br />Exciting to think we have now entered the year where we will see the space craft arriving at the Moon which can, beyond doubt see the Apollo landing sites.<br /><br />I do not want to get started on the conspiracy theorists. They make my blood boil! <br /><br />It sickens me to think that anybody involved in something as awesome, immense, and historic as the Apollo missions should have to suffer these ignorant theories. belittling what they achieved. I can only imagine how stunned many of those involved are at polls which show just how many people now believe NASA did not go to the Moon.<br /><br />Anyway, my real reason for posting, i found this image from the Apollo 15 command module. It shows the Apollo 15 landing site as a bright, white patch of disturbed ground towards top right of the image.<br /><br />Obviously this is in contrast to the Clementine "dark" patch.<br /><br />http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/ap15fj/photos/pan/as15-9814p.jpg <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em>"Traveling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy! Without precise calculations we could fly right through a star, or bounce too close to a supernova and that'd end your trip real quick, wouldn't it?"</em></font></p><p><font color="#33cccc"><strong>Han Solo - 1977 - A long time ago in a galaxy far far away....</strong></font></p><p><br /><br />Click Here And jump over to my site.<br /></p> </div>
 
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btw, what gives the shading difference?<br /><br />I was wondering if the exhaust simply changed the texture of the surface (made it more or less bumpy) so it caught the light differently. In that case darker patches could become lighter patches depending on the suns angle.
 
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Hi KelvinZero.<br /><br />I think you have it spot on. The viewing geometry was very different.<br /><br />From slightly 'behind' the patch may appear dark, as you see the 'shadowed' side of the <br />disturbance, where as Anthmartian's image shows the disturbance from almost the zenith, seeing <br />the sunlit side, hence appearing bright. <br /><br />Also I like Anthmartian's image, showing the incredible resolution of the immediate area <br />& of the collapsed lava tube Hadley Rille.<br /><br />Wonder where he got it from & if there are similar for the other sites, as well as other Lunar <br />locations???<br /><br />Can't wait for the Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter with the LROC camera & hope that JAXA<br />will lower SELENE's orbit, with the impressive HDTV & Terrain Cameras.<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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aphh

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A few years back I remember a SMART-1 image, that claimed to show the shadow of a Apollo lander.<br /><br />I'm not sure, but I think these are the two existing images from orbit with landers somewhat showing in them. <br /><br />Edit: I can't find the image now, but I remember it clearly and the text, that claimed that the shadow in the image was the Apollo lander.
 
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anthmartian

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Andrew : it was a wikipedia page of some kind which i found the image on. I just did a Google search for "apollo 15 landing site" There was not a lot else on the page.<br /><br />But, playing around with the URL from the image, i managed to get to the main page, and from there i found the image journal page.<br /><br />http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/ap15fj/a15images.htm<br /><br />I have not looked through the images here to see if there is anything helpful yet.<br /><br />I agree, about the feature looking light or dark depending on sun angle etc. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em>"Traveling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy! Without precise calculations we could fly right through a star, or bounce too close to a supernova and that'd end your trip real quick, wouldn't it?"</em></font></p><p><font color="#33cccc"><strong>Han Solo - 1977 - A long time ago in a galaxy far far away....</strong></font></p><p><br /><br />Click Here And jump over to my site.<br /></p> </div>
 
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