Converting gravity into mass.

[kmarinas86]

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/particles/qbag.html<br /><br />According to quantum mechanics, strecthing a group of quarks with enough force and distance will result in particle production. The tidal forces that black holes have on quarks will be able to create an endless supply of quark-antiquark pairs. Gravitational Potential Energy is converted to Kinetic energy, and yet Kinetic Energy is near infinite for a mass travelling near c. Does the value for gravitational potential energy, a negative value, correspond to gamma in a conversion from GPE to KE?<br /><br />gamma=1/sqrt(1-(v/c)²)<br /><br />KE=(gamma-1)*mc²<br />GPE=-GMm/r ----- << No Gamma?<br /><br />GPE+KE = Constant?<br /><br />How can GPE be converted to KE, when KE becomes infinite as function of GPE, while GPE isn't(?) affected by gamma?

 

[mikeemmert]

Hello again, kmarinas86.<br /><br />This reminds me of the "Black Hole Surface" thread. Here we go with that same 1/sqrt (0) "equation" again.<br /><br />A gravitational field represents energy. Since energy and mass are interchangeable (e = mc^2), a gravitational field has a gravitational field.<br /><br />Or does it? That sounds like perpetual motion to me - creation of mass/energy where there is none. What is the source of this? It seems like that's what you're saying. That's stumped me too, as well as the black hole surface problem.<br /><br />Maybe the key is that r is not static, but rather, dynamic? Can you shoehorn gamma into that somehow?<br /><br />On your first paragraph, it seems like a collapsing star will be compressing quarks, not stretching them. Maybe this results in particle destruction? Production of photons?<br /><br />What would that look like? Have they accounted for all of the zoo of gamma ray bursters?<br /><br />GravitySimulator has a smiley with red cheeks (for embarrrassment). I'll have to make do with :-/

 

[kmarinas86]

<font color="yellow">Maybe the key is that r is not static, but rather, dynamic? Can you shoehorn gamma into that somehow?</font><br /><br />http://vishnu.mth.uct.ac.za/omei/gr/chap8/node8.html<br /><br />not the same as gamma, but like it.<br /><br />It's equivalent to<br /><br />sqrt(1-V²/c²)<br /><br />Where V²=escape velocity=2GM/r<br /><br />The greater the escape velocity, the greater the contraction.<br /><br />Escape velocity² = Acceleration * Radius.<br /><br />Where r is the distance from the collapsing object's center.<br /><br />Which is better expressed as this:<br /><br />For masses:<br />sqrt(1-2GM/mc²)<br /><br />For light:<br />sqrt(1-2GM/hf)<br /><br />Where h is planck's constant, and f is the frequency of that light.<br /><br />This will apply for any case, whether there is any anomalous acceleration or not. If there is an anomalous acceleration, the equation with "escape velocity" or even the standard one, sqrt(1-2GM/rc²), is inaccurate, since Gravitational Time Dilation has more to do with GPE (Gravitional Potential Energy) than it has to do with "escape <i>velocity</i>" or "2GM/c²" (i.e. the schwarzschild <i>radius</i>).<br /><br />Acceleration as function of radius is assumed to be a inverse square law. And the pioneer probe anomaly (pioneer 10 & pioneer 11) is a sign that it is not.<br /><br />Therefore there is a possibility that Gravitational Potential Energy is positive for "expanding" systems, just as how two side-by-side protons (+) have positive Electrical Potential energy, but when they are really cold (near absolute 0) with little kinetic energy, they lose their "expansion", and crossing the tipping point of a EPE of 0, they can merge and become a super atom with a negative EPE. Likewise, if two galaxies head on each other with enough velocity, they will not expand away from each other (they have negative GPE because they merge). In a differing case two other galaxi

 

[kmarinas86]

<font color="yellow">On your first paragraph, it seems like a collapsing star will be compressing quarks, not stretching them. Maybe this results in particle destruction? Production of photons?</font><br /><br />According to some explanations, it results in "spagettification" from the object's point of view.<br /><br />The breaking up of Comet Shoemaker Levy 9 on its way to the clouds of jupiter is direct evidence of spagettification, regardless any contraction effect.<br /><br />According to others, it results in "flattening out" from our "point of view".<br /><br />One quark in the proton wants more black hole than the other quark. And due to differences in density of inside the proton, the most dense side will be generally closer to the the black hole on average.<br /><br />This will result in a spagetiffication of the proton, from the proton's point of view, and this will result of the conversion of kinetic energy into quark-antiquark pairs, whenever the there is an immense contraction such as near a collapsing star.<br /><br />http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/particles/qbag.html<br /><br /><font color="yellow">In dealing with the nature of quark confinement, one visualization is that of an elastic bag which allows the quarks to move freely around, as long as you don't try to pull them further apart. But if you try to pull a quark out, the bag stretches and resists. <br /><br /> <br />The quarks of a proton are free to move within the proton volume If you try to pull one of the quarks out, the energy required is on the order of 1 GeV per fermi, like stretching an elastic bag. The energy required to produce a separation far exceeds the pair production energy of a quark-antiquark pair, so instead of pulling out an isolated quark, you produce mesons as the produced quark-antiquark pairs combine. <br /><br />The models of quark confinement help in understanding why we have</font>