Doctor Who Rumormongering

CalliArcale · Oct 8, 2008

Okay, I don't always pass on rumors from the Sun, since their track record is a bit spotty (their Dr Who rumors are usually either brilliantly true or  completely wrong), but this one is just too cool not to share.  I read this rumor yesterday, but didn't have time to post.  Patrick Stewart may appear on Dr Who as the Meddling Monk!  (The Meddling Monk is a renegade Time Lord who was a recurring villain back in the William Hartnell era.)The Doctor and the Captain <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff." -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink" </div>

lildreamer · Oct 8, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Okay, I don't always pass on rumors from the Sun, since their track record is a bit spotty (their Dr Who rumors are usually either brilliantly true or  completely wrong), but this one is just too cool not to share.  I read this rumor yesterday, but didn't have time to post.  Patrick Stewart may appear on Dr Who as the Meddling Monk!  (The Meddling Monk is a renegade Time Lord who was a recurring villain back in the William Hartnell era.)The Doctor and the Captain Posted by CalliArcale</DIV> BBC has an article on it as well - and our sister's site Newsarama under their Doctor postings...It seems Patrick Stewart and our favorite Doctor hit it off so well - chemistry and all, that Patrick wanted to be apart of the Who magic....Writers wrote him in as the Meddling Monk and updated/revamped the character ...There's also hint of a Doctor Who episode - the Other Doctor where our Doctor gets to meet and hang out with a future  Doctor who is two or three times up the regeneration cycle from our Doctor. - might even become a companion so to speak...gawwwwddddd...can't wait for the next season....I'm even willing to listen to Vogon poetry for 12 hours....<img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-yell.gif" border="0" alt="Yell" title="Yell" />  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

crazyeddie · Oct 10, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'> Patrick Stewart may appear on Dr Who as the Meddling Monk!   Posted by CalliArcale</DIV>I wish we had that emoticon I've seen on other message boards that conveys an "Oh, boy, I can't wait!" feeling....a little face bouncing up and down with excitement.  I'd use it here if we did.  Patrick Stewart + Dr. Who = good time! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

CalliArcale · Oct 10, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I wish we had that emoticon I've seen on other message boards that conveys an "Oh, boy, I can't wait!" feeling....a little face bouncing up and down with excitement.  I'd use it here if we did.  Patrick Stewart + Dr. Who = good time! Posted by crazyeddie</DIV>Something like this, perhaps?  <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/8/12/c85ac21e-dcc2-4623-9c33-f96fd1c74127.Medium.gif" alt="" /> If this rumor pans out, I think the term "nerdgasm" may be appropriate.Note: another rumor I've heard (not sure if I passed it on here or not) is that Paul McGann may appear in one of the specials in 2009, fleshing out the 8th Doctor a little. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff." -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink" </div>

CalliArcale · Oct 10, 2008

I just did a quick search and found that the Paul McGann rumor was debunked by the Beeb only a day after it appeared in the Sun.  So that one was one of their spectacular misses. However......  The Beeb hasn't come forward to deny the Stewart rumor yet.  One wonders!!! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff." -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink" </div>

crazyeddie · Oct 10, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Something like this, perhaps?  Posted by CalliArcale</DIV>That's not quite it, but close! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

CalliArcale · Oct 13, 2008

This rumor is being reported by multiple news sources; of course, it could still prove untrue, but the rumor is that another Doctor Who special is being planned for Children In Need.  A Doctor Who story was produced for Children In Need years ago, called "Dimensions In Time".  it was a multi-Doctor, multi-companion piece featuring the Rani as the main villain.  It is often reviled by fans for its exceedingly low production values and somewhat minimal script.  But it's a charity production -- all the work is being donated -- so one shouldn't go too hard on it.If this rumor is correct, Doctor Who will again contribute to Children In Need, for broadcast on November 14, in a special featuring all seven living Doctors: Tom Baker, Peter Davidson, Colin Baker, Sylvester McCoy, Paul McGann, Christopher Eccleston, and David Tennant.  The rumor remains unconfirmed, and one should take it with a bit of skepticism, especially as all of these men have busy schedules, and some have mixed feelings about the show and the circumstances in which they left it.  Most would be enthusiastic about it, if they're available, but it's a coordination nightmare.I'd be tickled pink if they did it.  ;-)  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/3183974/Seven-Dr-Whos-set-for-reunion.html http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/latest/2008/10/12/all-surviving-doctor-who-actors-to-appear-in-one-ff-tv-speciall-115875-20797378/The latter one also reports that Georgia Moffett (daughter of Peter Davidson, and actress who played the Doctor's daughter in the last season) is now dating David Tennant.  But rumors are rumors....  Mind you, it could be concerning if this turns out to be true.  Another Doctor famously got romantically involved with a costar, and it did not end well.  (Tom Baker and Lalla Ward, whose brief marriage was the result of each actor falling in love with the other one's character on the series -- an occupational hazard, unfortunately.) Still, if it is true, I hope it goes well.Meanwhile (again unconfirmed), Tennant is reportedly in talks to continue performing as the Doctor until 2011, which would give him two more seasons after the four specials in 2009.http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/showbiz/article45417.ece <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff." -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink" </div>

JonClarke · Oct 14, 2008

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20081014.BUZZ14-3/TPStory/TPEntertainment/Television/I presume this would be a charity special?JonPS  It's  a real shame that there will not a 2009 series.  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars Arthur Clarke </div>

JonClarke · Oct 14, 2008

I never considered McGann a "real" doctor -  there was too much divation from even the very loose standards of continunity,  "Half human" and all that rot.  I woulddput himinto the same category as the Peter Cushing films/Jon <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars Arthur Clarke </div>

CalliArcale · Oct 14, 2008

There are those who would agree with you.  On the other hand, the BBC always considered Paul McGann's single televised adventure to be a part of the series (unlike the movies starring Peter Cushing, which had no BBC involvement).  When they took the Dr Who New Adventure line away from Virgin Publishing, they very consciously started out with Paul McGann as the "current" Doctor.  And then when the new series started up, Christopher Eccleston was consistently referred to as the Ninth Doctor (despite the BBC's alternate Ninth Doctor, voiced by Richard E Grant in the Flash-animated adventure "Scream of the Shalka").  In documentaries and such, care is always taken to include Paul McGann. That said, the actual events of the "Whovie" are routinely ignored, including the silly "half human" bit.  It's in the same bin as the Doctor's extra lives (ref. "The Brain of Morbius"), WOTAN calling him "Doctor Who" (ref. "The War Machines"), and UNIT dating (enormously complicated by "Mawdryn Undead").  ;-) <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff." -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink" </div>

CalliArcale · Oct 14, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20081014.BUZZ14-3/TPStory/TPEntertainment/Television/I presume this would be a charity special?JonPS  It's  a real shame that there will not a 2009 series.  Posted by jonclarke</DIV>EDIT: Whoops, finally read the actual link!  It might be for the charity special, or it might be for the actual series.  We'll have to wait to see.  ;-)  Of course, it sounds likely that it might not happen at all; according to the story, Prince Charles gets a lot of requests for appearances. The multi-doctor special would be a charity special.  "Children in Need" is a regular charity telethon event, akin to "Comic Relief: Red Nose Day" in which various specials are produced, with cast and crew donating their time and donations being taken during the event."Dimensions In Time" was never released or repeated, but some more recent ones have been, with the prime example being "The Curse of Fatal Death" which aired for Comic Relief a few years ago, starring Rowan Atkinson as the (presumably) Ninth Doctor.  It was released on VHS, and since it was for Comic Relief, all proceeds from the VHS sales also went to charity.  If the BBC is wise, they'll release this one on DVD for some extra donations.  ;-) <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff." -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink" </div>

CalliArcale · Oct 15, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20081014.BUZZ14-3/TPStory/TPEntertainment/Television/I presume this would be a charity special?JonPS  It's  a real shame that there will not a 2009 series.  Posted by jonclarke</DIV>Outpost Gallifrey is now reporting that Prince Charles (or more accurately, his staff) has turned down the offer of a cameo appearance.  They provided a link to a BBC story:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7666660.stm <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff." -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink" </div>

CalliArcale · Oct 16, 2008

Outpost Gallifrey reports that the 2009 Easter special will be written by Russell T Davies and Gareth Roberts.  Roberts wrote "Attack of the Graske", "The Shakespeare Code", and "The Unicorn and the Wasp".  James Strong, another veteran of the new series, will direct. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff." -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink" </div>

yevaud · Oct 30, 2008

I regret to post that David Tenant has announced that the next season of Doctor Who will be his last:David Tennant has revealed he will quit Dr Who at the end of next year, ending months of speculation over his future in the role.The announcement came as the star won most popular actor at the National Television Awards and the show picked up the accolade  for most popular drama.Despite his awards success, the BBC confirmed last night that the star will not play the Time Lord for the fifth series, which is planned for 2010.'I feel very privileged to have been part of this incredible phenomenon, and whilst I'm looking forward to new challenges I know I'll always be very proud to be the Tenth Doctor.'It is understood the Scottish actor, who has recently received rave reviews playing Hamlet in the Royal Shakespeare Company production in Stratford, is keen to try new projects.Full Article  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Differential Diagnosis: "I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are." </div>

CalliArcale · Oct 30, 2008

Awwwww.......Disappointing, but given the announced title of the Christmas special, it's not totally shocking.  I wonder if the fellow who will be appearing in this Christmas special will be the actual 11th Doctor in 2010, or if that's a red herring? Of course, I can't really blame Tennant.  Three seasons in the role, plus the specials in 2009.  That's actually about average for a Doctor. William Hartnell: 3 seasonsPatrick Troughton: 3 seasonsJon Pertwee: 5 seasons Tom Baker: 7 seasons (easily the record-holder)Peter Davison: 3 seasons Colin Baker: 2 seasonsSylvester McCoy: 3 seasonsPaul McGann: 1 storyChristopher Eccleston: 1 seasonDavid Tennant: 3-4 seasons, depending on whether or not you count the 4 specials as a full season <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff." -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink" </div>

yevaud · Oct 30, 2008

Personally, I always had a soft-spot for John Pertwee.  I thought in his own way, he was easily as good a Doctor as Tom Baker, his successor.  IMO, of course. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Differential Diagnosis: "I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are." </div>

CalliArcale · Oct 30, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Personally, I always had a soft-spot for John Pertwee.  I thought in his own way, he was easily as good a Doctor as Tom Baker, his successor.  IMO, of course. Posted by yevaud</DIV>He was very good -- and the second-longest-running Doctor, with five seasons under his belt.For fun, I looked up some stats.  I can go into detail on my assumptions for these numbers; a lot of them depend on how you count things.  For one thing, I'm assuming Tennant still gets five more stories (the Christmas special plus four next year) because the rumors have been fairly consistent on that point.  But bear that in mind when looking at these numbers, because Davies is still in charge in 2009, and like John Nathan Turner before him, he takes a certain delight in messing around with fans' minds. Average Doctor lifespan: 3.2 seasons, 20.3 stories, 76.4 episodesRanking by number of seasons: Tom Baker (7), Jon Pertwee (5), David Tennant (4), William Hartnell/Patrick Troughton/Peter Davison/Sylvester McCoy (3), Colin Baker (2), Christopher Eccleston/Paul McGann (1)Ranking by number of episodes: Tom Baker (178), William Hartnell (135), Jon Pertwee (128), Patrick Troughton (119), Peter Davison (69), David Tennant (47), Sylvester McCoy (42), Colin Baker (32), Christopher Eccleston (13), Paul McGann (1)Ranking by number of stories: Tom Baker (42), David Tennant (33), William Hartnell (29), Jon Pertwee (24), Patrick Troughton (21), Peter Davison (20), Sylvester McCoy (12), Colin Baker (11), Christopher Eccleston (10), Paul McGann (1) <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff." -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink" </div>

CalliArcale · Oct 30, 2008

...and Wikipedia is so addictive.  ;-)The average age of a Doctor (meaning the age of the actor at the time their first episode transmits) is 41.6.  The oldest was William Hartnell, at age 55.  The youngest was Peter Davison, at age 30.  Tennant was the second-youngest, having taken the role at age 34.Half of the Doctors were born in London.  Two were born in Liverpool, one in Manchester, one in Argyle, and one in the vicinity of Edinborough.The guy who will play the alleged "next Doctor" in the Christmas special is  David Morrisey.  Will he really be the new Doctor?  Or is Russell T Davies jerking our chain yet again?  Either seems likely.  Like two past Doctors (Tom Baker and Paul McGann), he was born in Liverpool.  He's 44 years old, not an unusual age for a Doctor.  (He's just a few months younger than Christopher Eccleston.)  And he's well-regarded as an actor.  Hmmmm......  ;-) <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff." -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink" </div>

CalliArcale · Nov 3, 2008

Here's a list of odds posted at Outpost Gallifrey.  Discuss.  ;-) WILLIAM HILL ODDS ON NEXT DOCTOR (30th Oct 2008) 5/2 David Morrissey 3/1 Patterson Joseph 6/1 James McAvoy 7/1 James Nesbitt, Robert Carlyle 8/1 John Simm, Rhys Ifans 12/1 Anthony Head 14/1 Alan Davies, Jason Statham 16/1 Nigel Harman, Bill Nighy 25/1 Daniel Radcliffe, Burn Gorman 33/1 Stephen Fry, John Barrowman 20/1 Next Doctor To Be Female 50/1 Christopher Eccleston <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff." -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink" </div>

lildreamer · Nov 3, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Here's a list of odds posted at Outpost Gallifrey.  Discuss.  ;-) WILLIAM HILL ODDS ON NEXT DOCTOR (30th Oct 2008)5/2 David Morrissey3/1 Patterson Joseph6/1 James McAvoy7/1 James Nesbitt, Robert Carlyle8/1 John Simm, Rhys Ifans12/1 Anthony Head14/1 Alan Davies, Jason Statham16/1 Nigel Harman, Bill Nighy25/1 Daniel Radcliffe, Burn Gorman33/1 Stephen Fry, John Barrowman20/1 Next Doctor To Be Female50/1 Christopher Eccleston Posted by CalliArcale</DIV>A) - seems like a smooth move from Tenant to him...they look similar B) - wow the first "black" Doctor now that would be historical so to speak....how would they explain that one... http://uk.imdb.com/news/ni0588957/get back to the others later...   <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

CalliArcale · Nov 3, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>A) - seems like a smooth move from Tenant to him...they look similarB) - wow the first "black" Doctor now that would be historical so to speak....how would they explain that one... http://uk.imdb.com/news/ni0588957/get back to the others later...   Posted by lildreamer</DIV>Well, there's nothing which says the Doctor has to retain skin color.  ;-)  Paterson Joseph was in "Neverwhere" as the Marquis de Carabas, and the way he played the part has me *convinced* he could be a fine Doctor -- especially since his performance in "Bad Wolf" was so radically different from that.  He's obviously got a lot of depth. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff." -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink" </div>

CalliArcale · Nov 6, 2008

It has been rumored that the new Doctor may be announced during the upcoming "Children in Need" charity special (which may or may not really include an all-living-Doctors skit) . Here are some new odds, from a different source, reported by Outpost Gallifrey.  This again does not include all rumored actors, but no list could.  ;-)  I'm a little surprised nobody's rumored Patrick Stewart (especially after the rumor of him possibly playing the Meddling Monk), and surprised some of the old "classic" rumors haven't resurfaced.   Roger Daltrey, for instance, was rumored at each transition starting in the mid-80s when Peter Davison left, right up through David Tennant taking the role.  And nobody's mentioned Joanna Lumley either.  Are they finally free of the Whovian rumor mill?  :-DODDS ON NEW DOCTOR FROM PADDY POWER (3rd Nov 2008) 2/1 David Morrisey 6/1 Paterson Joseph 8/1 James Nesbitt, Chiwetel Ejiofor 10/1 Russell Tovey, John Simm 12/1 Anthony Head 14/1 Robert Carlyle, David Walliams 16/1 Richard E Grant 18/1 Richard Coyle, Aidan Gillen, Alan Davies, Sean Pertwee 20/1 Jason Statham, Harry Lloyd, Nigel Harman, Marc Warren, Jack Davenport 25/1 Julian Walsh, Adrian Lester, Alexander Armstrong 33/1 Julian Rhind-Tutt, Rupert Penry-Jones, James McAvoy 40/1 Bill Nighy, Stephen Fry, Ben Wishaw 50/1 John Barrowman, Ben Miles, David Suchet, Hugh Laurie 66/1 Gary Oldman, Matt Smith, Paul Bettany, Joel Beckett, Christopher Eccleston 80/1 Alex Kingston, Dean Lennox Kelly, Christopher Villiers 100/1 Ricky Gervais 150/1 Hugh Grant, Russell Brand, Vinnie Jones 200/1 Robbie Williams  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff." -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink" </div>

yevaud · Nov 6, 2008

You missed one: rumor has been rampant in the UK that Billie Piper might be the next Doctor. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Differential Diagnosis: "I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are." </div>

CalliArcale · Nov 7, 2008

David Tennant reportedly contributed to that rumor, but was probably joking.  I find that rumor highly unlikely.  ;-)  But you never know!  Still, the bookies seem to agree, as she's not making lists of odds.  Reportedly, William Hill lowered their odds on a female Doctor from 20/1 to 12/1 after the interview with Tennant. Here's another set of odds (cut-and-pasted from Outpost Gallifrey):ODDS ON NEW DOCTOR FROM PADDY POWER (3rd Nov 2008) 2/1 David Morrisey 6/1 Paterson Joseph 8/1 James Nesbitt, Chiwetel Ejiofor 10/1 Russell Tovey, John Simm 12/1 Anthony Head 14/1 Robert Carlyle, David Walliams 16/1 Richard E Grant 18/1 Richard Coyle, Aidan Gillen, Alan Davies, Sean Pertwee 20/1 Jason Statham, Harry Lloyd, Nigel Harman, Marc Warren, Jack Davenport 25/1 Julian Walsh, Adrian Lester, Alexander Armstrong 33/1 Julian Rhind-Tutt, Rupert Penry-Jones, James McAvoy 40/1 Bill Nighy, Stephen Fry, Ben Wishaw 50/1 John Barrowman, Ben Miles, David Suchet, Hugh Laurie 66/1 Gary Oldman, Matt Smith, Paul Bettany, Joel Beckett, Christopher Eccleston 80/1 Alex Kingston, Dean Lennox Kelly, Christopher Villiers 100/1 Ricky Gervais 150/1 Hugh Grant, Russell Brand, Vinnie Jones 200/1 Robbie Williams  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff." -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink" </div>

yevaud · Nov 24, 2008

For Calli, the (other) resident Doctor Who fan of SDC:  A two minute clip from the new Doctor Who Christmas special...http://io9.com/5087863/an-identity-crisis-for-the-doctor-in-doctor-whos-christmas-special?autoplay=true <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Differential Diagnosis: "I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are." </div>

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