Failure is not an option

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Just caught Pt. 1 on history Channel, Pt. 2 tonight. I thought it was well done. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[kdavis007]

Did you see Part 2?

 

[CalliArcale]

I caught Pt 1, but missed Pt 2. (Very unusual weekend. Long story.) Pt 1 was great. I love hearing interviews with Gene Kranz. That guy can really tell a story. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[elguapoguano]

I got to see most of Pt2, missed the first 30 min or so. Recorded the replay last night though. IMHO they did a very good job of showing it from the Mission control perspective. They made it all the way through Discovery's landing... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#ff0000"><u><em>Don't let your sig line incite a gay thread ;>)</em></u></font> </div>

 

[mikejz]

Only thing that I felt was missing was a little segment on SS1's Mission Control. <br /><br />(That and maybe it should of presented the pros and cons of the shuttle)

 

[soccerguy789]

I saw both parts, but I liked the first better. I personally got bored during the shuttle part, because I have heard all of it before on every other program about the shuttle there ever was, but it had to be there, so I'm not blaming anyone. In part two I did particularly like the stuff on skylab. both of them were very well done.

 

[erioladastra]

The point of the show was not a comprehensive review of space exploration (nothing on Russia which is a bigger part than SS1) or policy - but a recounting of key things, particularly from the point of view of Mission Control.

 

[elguapoguano]

You've got a good point there. I also wondered why there was no mention of the MIR missions. It could have been a cool introspective to see how NASA mission control and Russia's mission control interfaced. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#ff0000"><u><em>Don't let your sig line incite a gay thread ;>)</em></u></font> </div>

 

[ikarei]

Part 2 will be shown again this Saturday morning. <br />

 

[CalliArcale]

I suspect they left out Shuttle-Mir mainly because they had to leave <i>something</i> out. There have been quite a few Shuttle missions, after all.<br /><br />It might be fun to see a comparable program about the folks at Korolev, to get a feel for the different culture in that mission control center. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[spacefire]

NASA: "Failure is not an option...just an alternative" <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>http://asteroid-invasion.blogspot.com</p><p>http://www.solvengineer.com/asteroid-invasion.html </p><p> </p> </div>

 

[radarredux]

> <i><font color="yellow">NASA: "Failure is not an option...just an alternative"</font>/i><br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />I haven't seen the show yet (its on my TiVo), but I have several issues with the title already.<br /><br /><KNOWLEDGE-FREE RANT /><br />"Beyond the Moon"? It should be "After the Moon"? or "Not as Far as the Moon". I thought the show would be about plans for steps "beyond" the orbit of the Moon.<br /><br />I hate the phrase "Failure is not an option". Failure should be planned for, and the plan should be designed to be robust enough to survive failure. In the mid-1980s America's entire access to space was shutdown because of the failure of Challenger -- NASA had worked hard to remove any launch competition to the Shuttle. In the last several years ISS has been placed on hold because NASA designed a construction plan that could <i>only</i> use the shuttle. Should space debris hit ISS, the entire focus of US manned space exploration for roughly 20 years will be gone.<br /><br />NASA has designed programs where one failure (Challenger, Columbia, debris impact with ISS) brings everything to a halt. No wonder they are risk averse.<br /></KNOWLEDGE-FREE RANT /></i>

 

[viper101]

Hi all - okay - I've totally missed the Boat on this.<br /><br />Is the show called Failure is not an Option, and if so, would the TV guide list it as anotehr show (Like the way they will air a documentary as part of some other TV series)<br />I'd like to catch this (at least a re-broadcast) if I can. <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" />

 

[tap_sa]

*cough* *cough*

 

[viper101]

Very much appreciated Tap! <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" />

 

[tom312]

Gentelman from what I saw on that show. I really got an impression that NASA was at it's best when it's backed into a coner, when it's all riding on them to come up with solutions or to get something very important done. The problem is that when they let thier guard down problems arise, they get to relaxed.

 

[ikarei]

There are two parts - part 1 deals with mostly gemini, mercury and apollo missions <br /><br />part 2 deals with the post-apollo missions like skylab and the shuttle all the way through to sts-114.<br /><br />I looked through the schedule and it seems that they will be rebroadcasting part 2 on Saturday morning though your own schedule may differ a bit. <br /><br />

 

[radarredux]

> <i><font color="yellow">Is the show called Failure is not an Option</font>/i><br /><br />Here is a LINK to the History Channel page. The next showing is Sat Sep 3, at 8am (there may be timezone issues).<br /><br />The story is told from the view of the people in Mission Control, which I thought was a nice touch. This segment follows NASA (via Mission Control perspective) from after the Moon landings to the recent Discovery touchdown.<br /><br />Gene Kranz (Mr. "Failure is not an option") plays a lead role in much of the discussions.<br /><br />Other than my complaints about the title (see above), I thought the show was very good. One thing I found touching was how many NASA people felt adrift, with no major political or public support and no major direction.</i>