First-Ever Close-up Photo of Liquid on Extraterrestrial World

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<p>I remember in the pre-Pluck SDC that someone had posted that they thought there was droplets on the lense !</p><p>&nbsp;http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/12/titanmethane.html</p><div id="entry-59838046" class="entry"><div id="article"><div id="article_body"><h1 id="articlehed">First-Ever Photo of Liquid on Extraterrestrial World</h1><div class="date_time"><span style="margin-right:20px"><span class="c cs">By Wired Science</span> <img src="http://blog.wired.com/images/icon_email.gif" alt="Email" /></span><span style="margin-right:20px">December 15, 2008 | 1:31:31 PM</span>Categories: Space&nbsp;&nbsp; </div></div></div><div class="entry-content"><div id="article"><div id="article_body"><div id="article_text"><p><img style="margin:0px0px5px5px" src="http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/images/2008/12/15/wiredtitan2_2.jpg" border="0" alt="Wiredtitan2_2" title="Wiredtitan2_2" width="275" height="464" /> The Huygens probe has captured an image of what may be the first drop of liquid ever observed on an extraterrestrial surface. </p><p>The photo is evidence that liquids may exist on the surface of other planets and moons, not just frozen lakes. And liquid is more likely habitat for extraterrestrial life.</p><p>Among the pictures snapped by the Huygens probe after landing on Saturn's moon Titan in 2005, one appears to show a dewdrop made of methane that briefly formed on the edge of the probe itself (indicated by arrow at bottom of image on right). Scientists think heat from the probe caused humid air to rise and condense on the cold edge of the craft.</p><p>Though Huygens may have helped produce it, the methane drop is still the first liquid directly detected at a surface anywhere beyond Earth.</p><p>Like Earth, Titan has clouds, lakes and river channels, and it may be the only other place in the solar system where liquid evaporates from the surface and returns as rain. "Aside from Earth, it's the most exciting world there is," said lead author Erich Karkoschka of the University of Arizona in Tucson.</p><p>The Cassini space probe, which took data from above the moon after separating from the Huygens lander, detected what scientists believe are lakes of liquid methane on Titan's surface. Microbes that eat methane thrive on Earth, and scientists think pools of methane could be comfortable homes for similar organisms on Titan. </p><p>Because Titan's current atmosphere is a lot like the early Earth's, the lakes could be a lab for studying the origins and early evolution of life. </p><p>Astronomers have speculated since they found methane in the atmosphere in 1983 about whether the moon's methane rain falls in violent thunderstorms, light drizzles or some other form. So far, no one has caught it on camera.</p><p>The hundreds of images snapped by Huygens, from the time it hit the atmosphere until its power ran out an hour after it landed, revealed only faint, wispy clouds that looked nothing like rain clouds, Karkoschka said. </p><p>None of the images showed evidence that it had rained during the previous few years, according to an analysis to be published in the journal <em>Icarus</em>. And some images suggested that Titan&rsquo;s lower atmosphere was full of small dust particles, which would have been cleared out by rain.</p><p>But the scientists noticed light splotches in some of the pictures that hadn't been there moments before. Some of them had spots that initially looked like raindrops because of their uniform size and smooth edges, but analysis showed they were most likely electronic imprints created by cosmic rays. </p><p>However, Karkoschka said, "One of those spots was so big that it really cannot be a cosmic ray." He concluded that it was a real, short-lived dewdrop, so close to the camera that it must have condensed on a cold metal shield designed to protect the camera lens from direct sunlight.</p><p>Robert West, a planetary scientist at the Jet Propulsion Lab in Pasadena, California, thinks the dewdrop is "a cute observation," but he's more interested in the lack of rainfall. "There are reports in the literature that concluded there is a drizzle going on near the surface," he said. "The fact that Huygens didn&rsquo;t find anything is significant."</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &mdash; Lisa Grossman for Wired.com</p></div></div></div></div></div> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p align="center"><font size="1">petet = <font color="#800000"><strong>silylene</strong></font></font></p><p align="center"><font size="1">Please, please give me my handle back !</font></p> </div>
 
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Yikes,&nbsp;now even my notebook calls me 'petet'.&nbsp; Whatever happened to my old handle, 'silylene' ?? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p align="center"><font size="1">petet = <font color="#800000"><strong>silylene</strong></font></font></p><p align="center"><font size="1">Please, please give me my handle back !</font></p> </div>
 
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<p><font size="2"><strong>Thank you very much Silylene.</strong></font></p><p><font size="2"><strong>I'm surprised no one else has responded to this.&nbsp;</strong></font></p><p><font size="2"><strong>Certainly looks like something real to me. Those sptches do appear like liquid on the camera. Those frames are certainly 'cleaned' up from the raw images, show more detail in the actual landscape & the hills on the horizon look clearer too.</strong></font></p><p><font size="2"><strong>This is great stuff, it really is.</strong></font></p><p><font size="2"><strong>Andrew Brown.&nbsp;</strong></font></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I'm surprised no one else has responded to this.&nbsp;.Andrew Brown.&nbsp; <br />Posted by 3488</DIV><br /><br />Hi Andrew,</p><p>&nbsp;I would have liked to answer, but I do not know this "Petet" who pretends to be Silylene. What evidence do we have that Petet is Silylene? (<img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-tongue-out.gif" border="0" alt="Tongue out" title="Tongue out" />). The real Silylene was a serious-looking noble amerindian, not a boob from Springfield.</p><p>Let's get first the confirmation by the real Silylene.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
 
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<p>I am not quite sure which blob is in gavt the droplet.</p><p>There is a chance that the "barnacles" on the Phoenix landing legs were brine droplets too, making it the second close up.</p><p>Jon</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars</em>  Arthur Clarke</p> </div>
 
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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I am not quite sure which blob is in gavt the droplet.There is a chance that the "barnacles" on the Phoenix landing legs were brine droplets too, making it the second close up.Jon <br />Posted by <strong>jonclarke</strong></DIV><br /><br />It's in very low left hand corner of the right pic.&nbsp; There's a little white arrow pointing to it. It's there in the right pic and not there in the left pic. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>-----------------------------------------------------</p><p><font color="#ff0000">Ask not what your Forum Software can do do on you,</font></p><p><font color="#ff0000">Ask it to, please for the love of all that's Holy, <strong>STOP</strong> !</font></p> </div>
 
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Great find <strong>petet/silylene</strong>! Kudos.&nbsp;<strong> </strong> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>It's in very low left hand corner of the right pic.&nbsp; There's a little white arrow pointing to it. It's there in the right pic and not there in the left pic. <br />Posted by Mee_n_Mac</DIV><br /><br />There are also several other arrows in the figure, pointing to spots which apppear to be on rocks or soil.&nbsp; The spots are suuposedly condensed liquid on the lense. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p align="center"><font size="1">petet = <font color="#800000"><strong>silylene</strong></font></font></p><p align="center"><font size="1">Please, please give me my handle back !</font></p> </div>
 
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Thanks!&nbsp; It would have been a good idea if I had looked at the full sized image.&nbsp; It would have saved you troubel and me embarassment.... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars</em>  Arthur Clarke</p> </div>
 
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