# Gravity force between photons or photon and a mass will result in a gravitational effect with Dark Matter

#### MaxGaofeiYan

The following research shows that there is a gravity force between photons that behaves like matter with mass, which opens a completely new door to the study of Dark Matter. Space is full of EM waves, which increase in density as they get closer to a star or a galaxy.

The experiment in the Large Hadron Collider shows how photons can behave like matter with mass. "CERN have found the first direct evidence of high energy light-by-light scattering, a very rare process in which two photons – particles of light – interact and change direction."
https://www.bnl.gov/newsroom/news.php?a=217397

The following is another experiment by the University of Pittsburgh. "Unlike particles of matter, however, photons have no mass. It is surprising, then, to find that gravity—traditionally understood as the force attracting any two objects with mass—can affect light.":

https://funsizephysics.com/gravity-for-photons/

Here are equations explaining the force between photons or photon and mass:
F=Y_1 (f_1 f_2)/r^2 (gravity force between photon and photon)
F=Y_2 f m/r^2 (gravity force between photon and mass)

Where:
F – gravity force between two photons or photon and an object with mass
Y_1 = 3.61 × 10^−111 𝑚^3 𝑘g
Y_2 = 4.91 x 10^-61 m^3 s^-1
f – photon frequency
m – mass of object
r – distance between two photons or object with mass and photon
https://zenodo.org/record/4541280#.YCpkSnlOnIU
https://zenodo.org/record/4057270#.X8-pprNOnIW

If there is a gravity force between an EM wave and matter or another EM wave, all of the puzzling observations of the Gravitational effect or so-called Dark Matter will make perfect sense.

#### rabsal

Excellent info that I will check on, I had recently been thinking that the strong force is a result of or equivalent in some way to Dark Energy. I consider spinning energy(or particles fundamentally) to have resonance and be equal to mass, form, memory, time and consciousness. EM or photons or binary code is just positive and negative that can switch back and forth between states and therefore has no memory or form etc., and is not conscious. So mass equals consciousness and galaxies, stars and planets would also be conscious. For humans consciousness equates with sentience....I've posted alot on various interviews from Lex Fridman's podcast.

#### MaxGaofeiYan

Excellent info that I will check on, I had recently been thinking that the strong force is a result of or equivalent in some way to Dark Energy. I consider spinning energy(or particles fundamentally) to have resonance and be equal to mass, form, memory, time and consciousness. EM or photons or binary code is just positive and negative that can switch back and forth between states and therefore has no memory or form etc., and is not conscious. So mass equals consciousness and galaxies, stars and planets would also be conscious. For humans consciousness equates with sentience....I've posted alot on various interviews from Lex Fridman's podcast.

#### Curiosity killed the cat

The following is another experiment by the University of Pittsburgh. "Unlike particles of matter, however, photons have no mass. It is surprising, then, to find that gravity—traditionally understood as the force attracting any two objects with mass—can affect light.":
When did gravitation become a force? My understanding is,.. Mass curves space-time and the curvature of space-time influence the motion of anything which transits that curved space-time .(Including Light)

if the results of Arthur Eddingtons experiments, which he carried out to test Einsteins theory about space-time, curvature, have been falsified, it certainly comes as news to me !

#### Stellarwest

The following research shows that there is a gravity force between photons that behaves like matter with mass, which opens a completely new door to the study of Dark Matter. Space is full of EM waves, which increase in density as they get closer to a star or a galaxy.

The experiment in the Large Hadron Collider shows how photons can behave like matter with mass. "CERN have found the first direct evidence of high energy light-by-light scattering, a very rare process in which two photons – particles of light – interact and change direction."
https://www.bnl.gov/newsroom/news.php?a=217397

The following is another experiment by the University of Pittsburgh. "Unlike particles of matter, however, photons have no mass. It is surprising, then, to find that gravity—traditionally understood as the force attracting any two objects with mass—can affect light.":

https://funsizephysics.com/gravity-for-photons/

Here are equations explaining the force between photons or photon and mass:
F=Y_1 (f_1 f_2)/r^2 (gravity force between photon and photon)
F=Y_2 f m/r^2 (gravity force between photon and mass)

Where:
F – gravity force between two photons or photon and an object with mass
Y_1 = 3.61 × 10^−111 𝑚^3 𝑘g
Y_2 = 4.91 x 10^-61 m^3 s^-1
f – photon frequency
m – mass of object
r – distance between two photons or object with mass and photon
https://zenodo.org/record/4541280#.YCpkSnlOnIU
https://zenodo.org/record/4057270#.X8-pprNOnIW

If there is a gravity force between an EM wave and matter or another EM wave, all of the puzzling observations of the Gravitational effect or so-called Dark Matter will make perfect sense.
It is said that a photon behaves like a particle yet it is massless, however it conveys energy.

I disagree with with the above massless part of the perception of a photon and I have calculated its mass to very tiny.
.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000022694723288082Kg

#### MaxGaofeiYan

When did gravitation become a force? My understanding is,.. Mass curves space-time and the curvature of space-time influence the motion of anything which transits that curved space-time .(Including Light)

if the results of Arthur Eddingtons experiments, which he carried out to test Einsteins theory about space-time, curvature, have been falsified, it certainly comes as news to me !
Thank you for the post.

Please allow me to clarify my perspective.

When there is gravity force between matter with mass, the Sun for example, and photons, let's say the light from another star as in Arthur Eddington's observation, as the equations showing above, the path of light will still be bent.

To illustrate this point, I will use Mercury's orbit as another example verify this gravity theory. As Mercury is relatively close to the sun compared to other planets, it is nearer to the actual source of the photons being emitted by the Sun. As a result, the amount and density of photons that act of Mercury are greater than other planets. This phenomenon, as stated in my formula, account for the additional gravity force on Mercury's during its orbit, which is strong enough to be observed. Therefore, it is does not need to be explained by Einstein's space-time curvature.

Einstein's General Gravity Theory on gravity has been repeatedly challenged by the observations of so-called Dark Matter and Dark Energy. Here is the latest one reported by BBC:

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-57244708

However, all of the confusing observations of dark matter can be explained with this new gravity theory that I published:

https://zenodo.org/record/4057270#.YQFDJUApDIX

#### Curiosity killed the cat

I suspect the presumed detection of hypothetical dark matter by way of its gravitation, Is in fact the detection of the way gravitation can create a far reaching geometry in space-time, I still support Einsteins theory of mass altering the geometry of space-time, even though I have a different opinion about how it does so. I believe it is actually the geometry of dark energy within space-time that is being curved and that Einsteins greatest mistake (as he called it.) could well turn out to be his greatest success, He proposed quintessence, which possesses the properties of the phenomenon we now know as, and refer to, as dark energy, I believe it is actually this phenomenon which is responsible for both gravitation and cosmic expansion.

Formulating a T,O.E. via a unified field theory route cannot happen, until science accepts that gravitation is not a force, gravitons do not exist and there is no dark matter. As Minkowski and Einstein suggested, the relationship and interactions between space and time (properly known as space-time,)hold all the clues necessary to explain our reality.
Bigger, more powerful instruments, with which to observe our universe, are usefull tools, but, I.M.O. an understanding of space-time is of much greater importance, If humanity can change the way it thinks of space-time, The answers will surely come.

Rest in peace Einstein... Long live relativity !!!

#### Lariliss

Excellent info that I will check on, I had recently been thinking that the strong force is a result of or equivalent in some way to Dark Energy. I consider spinning energy(or particles fundamentally) to have resonance and be equal to mass, form, memory, time and consciousness. EM or photons or binary code is just positive and negative that can switch back and forth between states and therefore has no memory or form etc., and is not conscious. So mass equals consciousness and galaxies, stars and planets would also be conscious. For humans consciousness equates with sentience....I've posted alot on various interviews from Lex Fridman's podcast.
The present study proposes that the photon consists of a positive elementary charge and a negative elementary charge. The charges are loosely coupled, i.e. they do not form a fixed dipole. The photon’s mass is zero. Its charge is the sum of its positive and negative charges, i.e. zero charge. It enables photons to propagate with the speed of light. It is proposed that the positive charge propagates in the radial direction and at the same time it rotates clockwise perpendicular to the radial direction resulting in a helix shaped motion. The negative charge rotates counter clockwise resulting that the two charges propagate along a double helix with the speed of light in the radial direction.

Photon, which is a pure energy, spin with no mass, can convert itself in a particle, that has a mass. Electron or a positron can be formed , which is an anti part of the positron (negative or positive charge). This happens all the time around us with a spontaneous emission or absorption of energy.
Changing colours of the visible ligh (experienced in our consciousness?). But not only the colours, but the structure of nature itself. The dynamics of cell life is a fundamental of this process with the organization of positive and negative charge. Photon is an evolutionary driving thing of everything.
Is that what meant by'consciousness'?