has any one experieced arriving before you left?

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tropicalzone

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i want to know if anyone here has flown on a plane that went so fast that you beat the sun around the earth and arrived at your destination earlier than when you left? what was it like?
 
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vogon13

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The closest I came was on a flight from (IIRC) Denver to Seattle and experienced a sunset that lasted 3 hours.<br /><br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#ff0000"><strong>TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#339966"><strong>So many people, so few recipes !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#0000ff"><strong>Let's clean up this stinkhole !!</strong></font> </p> </div>
 
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astralimage

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Yeah, happens all the time. I live in Beijing China, but I visit my family in the northeast United States every year. The fastest way to go is a polar flight Beijing/New York. It's really beautiful flying over Siberia/Arctic/Yukon... truly to something to behold! The land just goes on and on forever without a sign of civilization. The view was excellent on my last trip cuz it stayed 3 pm the whole time -and I actually end up in New York a little earlier than when I left.
 
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tropicalzone

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i've never experienced that before its just so weird.
 
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weeman

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I don't think I ever have. The easiest way to do this should be by taking a flight over the International Dateline. So, if you were to fly from New Zealand to Hawaii, you should arrive much earlier than when you left. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><strong><font color="#ff0000">Techies: We do it in the dark. </font></strong></p><p><font color="#0000ff"><strong>"Put your hand on a stove for a minute and it seems like an hour. Sit with that special girl for an hour and it seems like a minute. That's relativity.</strong><strong>" -Albert Einstein </strong></font></p> </div>
 
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lukman

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If you fly crossing GMT zero area, you will get huge bonus hours -) <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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tropicalzone

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sorry i was asking about chasing the sun or getting ahead of it not just merely crossing international dateline.
 
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astralimage

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The example I gave turns into one hell of a long day! Sunrise in Beijing at 6 am or so. My flight leaves at 3pm, still daylight of course. Flight lasts 12 hours, all daylight. Arrive in New York around the same time I left, 3 pm (like I was existing outside of time on the plane, which sounds about right cuz it feels like forever) From there I head to Maine, finally getting home around 7 pm - just in time to watch the Sun set. (date has not changed) Sunrise to Sunset = 25 hours! <br /><br />Of course that's just a rough calculation. It's hard to remember things precisely that occured under the influence of jetlag.<br /><br />Returning to China is worse, as it thrusts me into the future, and I can never figure out if I'm arriving on the same day I leave New York or the next one.<br /><br />But one nice thing about a 12 hour time difference is that I never need to reset my watch, either way.<br /><br />
 
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ianke

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I believe the SR-71 Blackbird is capable of out racing the sun, but not too many other craft can.<br /><br />Note: You could walk a circle around either of the poles at say 2ft radius and really out run the sun.<img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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tropicalzone

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wow you experienced a summer day at the north pole,no sunset for 25 hrs wow and i thought the 16 hr20min days here in winnipeg were long
 
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astralimage

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<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p> Note: You could walk a circle around either of the poles at say 2ft radius and really out run the sun. <p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />Yeah, could cross the dateline once a second and time travel in either direction:)<br /><br />BTW: I also once arrived before I left going westward! St. Petersburg to Stolckholm, cuz the timezones are really narrow up there.
 
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qso1

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Ianke:<br />I believe the SR-71 Blackbird is capable of out racing the sun, but not too many other craft can.<br /><br />Me;<br />IIRC, the Concorde could do this as well but as the faster of the two craft, I imagine it was easier for the SR-71 to do it. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>My borrowed quote for the time being:</strong></p><p><em>There are three kinds of people in life. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen...and those who do not know what happened.</em></p> </div>
 
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lukman

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<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p> I believe the SR-71 Blackbird is capable of outracing the sun, but not too many other craft can. <p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br />I doubt that, any prove? any test been done? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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ianke

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1.As I understand it, the SR-71 can travel at about 2000 miles/hr. <br /><br />2. the eatrh is what about 27000 miles in diameter?<br /><br /><br />Hence, if you reach that speed(even at the equator) at sundown, going west, the sun will rise again in the west.<br /><br />Do the math yourself. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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lukman

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You right, i got my head mixed up with numbers, somehow my head gave me around 60000miles earth circle.<br /><br />But you are also wrong, if earth diameter is 27000miles, then the circumference would be 27000*22/7 = 84857miles<br /><br />FYI: Earth rotational speed is 465.11 m/s. Circumference =40,041.47 km (27000miles) <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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ianke

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My Bad! I am a bit of a doof with words sometimes.<img src="/images/icons/blush.gif" /> <br /><br />Thanks for the correction<img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />Ianke <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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emperor_of_localgroup

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Too many wrong info in these posts. The earth's diameter is 8000 miles (roughly). Radius is only 4000 miles. That makes only 25000 miles around (circumference). Our earth isn't that big anyway, IMO. Rotating 25000 miles in 24 hours gives earth's speed as 1042 mph. I dont know how many planes can pass that speed. But traveling in both directions with this speed gotta be interesting. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="2" color="#ff0000"><strong>Earth is Boring</strong></font> </div>
 
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derekmcd

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That speed is only at the equator. Certainly, at higher latitudes, a plane can "outrun the sun". <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div> </div><br /><div><span style="color:#0000ff" class="Apple-style-span">"If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing." - Homer Simpson</span></div> </div>
 
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MeteorWayne

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In case you haven't noticed, the Concorde doesn't fly anymore. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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lukman

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i have the figure from wikipedia, indeed the speed is only at equator, if i can beat the cold and the wind at pole, i can easily beat the earth rotation. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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tropicalzone

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i know i was just saying that they were built to fly faster than sound.
 
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