Intuitive Machines' Odysseus moon lander beams home 1st photos from lunar surface

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Intuitive Machines' Odysseus moon lander was the first private spacecraft to reach the lunar surface. We now have some images of what it sees as well as an update on its fate.

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[Sadot]

Not trusting anything they are saying about this probe...
They edited the Bill Nelson video... He originally said "We've Taken the Moon" during the playback or the message during the live stream.... Now they have edited it to show him saying "Odysseus has taken the moon"

Why the deception

If this thing landed in the correct origination the software would have launched the 3rd person view camera... in fact it would have launched they regardless of ordination I suspect unless it was program not too if it was out of limits.

I would only imagine the limit would be if the the probe was upside down...

Also one more thing... if this thing is upright as shown in the the photo... why is it now so hard to communicate with it?

You cant tell me they sent something that is about 3days from earth travel time... and put a mono directional antenna on it that requires the thing to be mega precise in it's landing direction?

That would make no sense... That it like putting a directional mic in a place you want to capture sound from all around you.

As stated I don't trust anything that is coming from these people.

 

[Classical Motion]

Many aspects of this mission were disappointing to me. And they hype it as a success. First of all along with the engineering software for design and operation that we have had for decades, we also have project planning software. The planning software should have caught that switch. That manual interlock switch.

They used our military network space wifi for navigation/communication to the moon. And it worked very well from the reports. I would assume this is an array antenna. A stationary antenna that can be aimed electronically. And automatically.

After moon orbit, they switched on their moon navigation and that's when they found a dead navigation/landing system from that switch. That is a huge OOPS.

So they sent a patch to route another instrument for landing navigation. That patch did not try to integrate the landing cameras. They were left non functional. A proper integrated patch can be uploading after landing. Patch might not be needed after landing.

But the patch was not successful. And evidently there was some lateral motion upon landing.......tipping the craft over.

However there seems to be no shame in declaring the patch and landing a success.

How does the previous team of a few weeks ago feel about that? They made a "landing" too.

The job of a project manager is to confirm every detail. And confirm every contingency protocol.

And that was not done by man or machine. An interlock switch of all things. How many techs and engineers signed off on that procedure? Have you ever seen the documents of maintenance at a nuclear plant?

And why didn't the project software flag it?

Either there is was a lapse in the protocol(software error) or someone skirted the protocol.

I can only surmise with what I read. And I'm sure there are other undisclosed factors.

And I don't believe a celebration is in order. I judge it as a failure. But have no standing before them.

 

[Sadot]

Many aspects of this mission were disappointing to me. And they hype it as a success. First of all along with the engineering software for design and operation that we have had for decades, we also have project planning software. The planning software should have caught that switch. That manual interlock switch.

They used our military network space wifi for navigation/communication to the moon. And it worked very well from the reports. I would assume this is an array antenna. A stationary antenna that can be aimed electronically. And automatically.

After moon orbit, they switched on their moon navigation and that's when they found a dead navigation/landing system from that switch. That is a huge OOPS.

So they sent a patch to route another instrument for landing navigation. That patch did not try to integrate the landing cameras. They were left non functional. A proper integrated patch can be uploading after landing. Patch might not be needed after landing.

But the patch was not successful. And evidently there was some lateral motion upon landing.......tipping the craft over.

However there seems to be no shame in declaring the patch and landing a success.

How does the previous team of a few weeks ago feel about that? They made a "landing" too.

The job of a project manager is to confirm every detail. And confirm every contingency protocol.

And that was not done by man or machine. An interlock switch of all things. How many techs and engineers signed off on that procedure? Have you ever seen the documents of maintenance at a nuclear plant?

And why didn't the project software flag it?

Either there is was a lapse in the protocol(software error) or someone skirted the protocol.

I can only surmise with what I read. And I'm sure there are other undisclosed factors.

And I don't believe a celebration is in order. I judge it as a failure. But have no standing before them.

Yes you nailed... Failure passed off as a success.. That is what left a bad taste in my mouth. The Commentators constantly telling us that was a great call for everything that was going on... they where lying to us in real time ...that is fine their space craft their mission so in reality they did not have to let us tag along... but everyone on the live stream could tell something was going wrong and that is what bites about putting your information public... they started to censor at the end there.

As for the so called switch and the patch software.. First as a pilot, heck any pilot will tell you follow your checklist. This team should have had a before flight checklist and multiple people running through that check list before it was mounted to a boaster. So that was unacceptable.

That Software patch.. see they way I see that is if those laser where capable of a secondary function that program should have been loaded to the probe for she left Earth so that could be proven and tested as a reliable back up should something happen to the main range finder... So I don't give them the props everyone is giving them on that one..

Any programmer will tell you push something into production untested is a recipe for a bad outcome...

But hey this is space travel so I should be more forgiving.. But like you wrote... The hype pre and post is sickening...

Every one gets a trophy I guess.

 

[Brad]

Yes this mission is really an abject failure being passed off as a great success. SLIM, which also failed to a certain degree (at least they got some science) has now come back to life and sent more pictures from the surface of the moon then Odysseus has it's whole mission. What a disappointment and waste of funds. I know innovation has a cost but honestly most of these issues are because of sloppy protocols and a lack of attention to certain details.