japan plans for Lunar base with Humanoid robots by 2025

[spacefire]

They watched too much Anime or could this actually happen???<br /><br />http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20050620/tc_pcworld/121442 <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>http://asteroid-invasion.blogspot.com</p><p>http://www.solvengineer.com/asteroid-invasion.html </p><p> </p> </div>

 

[toymaker]

They are claiming this since 80s.<br />When I was a child I remember such articles boasting they would build such a base in 2000 then 2010, then 2020 etc...

 

[spacefire]

yeah but now they do have advanced humanoid robots!<br />at least much more advanced than the rest of the world. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>http://asteroid-invasion.blogspot.com</p><p>http://www.solvengineer.com/asteroid-invasion.html </p><p> </p> </div>

 

[toymaker]

Dream on <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" />

 

[tom_hobbes]

They plan several decades ahead, if not centuries. Sure, best laid plans and all that, but still, if anything is going to get us off this rock, that's the kind of ambition which will do it. Surely? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font size="2" color="#339966"> I wish I could remember<br /> But my selective memory<br /> Won't let me</font><font size="2" color="#99cc00"> </font><font size="3" color="#339966"><font size="2">- </font></font><font size="1" color="#339966">Mark Oliver Everett</font></p><p> </p> </div>

 

[drwayne]

If one can really plan that way, then certainly that beats the way we do things, a budget cycle at a time.<br /><br />Wayne <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>"1) Give no quarter; 2) Take no prisoners; 3) Sink everything."  Admiral Jackie Fisher</p> </div>

 

[spacefire]

we'll see. Japan says they will be heaviliy involved with the US program of setting up a base on the Moon as a stepping stone and training ground for Mars. So if the US decides not to go to the Moon, I doubt Japan will go at it alone. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>http://asteroid-invasion.blogspot.com</p><p>http://www.solvengineer.com/asteroid-invasion.html </p><p> </p> </div>

 

[toymaker]

hehe.It goes like this-Russians say we shall go the Mars in 2015 ! We need money ! Then the government-hmm...we can only give this amount.<br />And then they can have the new kitchen in the office.

 

[wvbraun]

I won't hold my breath. Japan should develop a manned spacecraft, like China. What are they waiting for?

 

[lunatic133]

A robotic moon base? That is just sad ... I think that certain people are trying WAY too hard to keep space out of reach from humans forever <img src="/images/icons/frown.gif" /> What exactly is the point of having a moon base where nobody lives or works?

 

[spacefire]

it would actually be a good idea. the base would be designed for humans anyway, but robots would go there first-humanoid robots, in many ways a lot like us- and make sure everything is before we send people to live there. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>http://asteroid-invasion.blogspot.com</p><p>http://www.solvengineer.com/asteroid-invasion.html </p><p> </p> </div>

 

[lunatic133]

Maybe, but that's not the impression I got from reading the article.<br /><blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>As part of the plan, Japan would use advanced robotic technologies to help build the moon base, while redeveloped versions of today's humanoid robots, such as Honda Motor's Asimo and Sony's Qrio, could work in the moon's inhospitable environment in place of astronauts, he said in a recent interview.<br />Japan's lunar robots would do work such as building telescopes and prospecting and mining for minerals, Tachikawa said.<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br />That doesn't sound like they ever intend for humans to be there to me, but I could be wrong.

 

[spacefire]

I don't understand why they would use humanoid robots rather than tracked or wheeled robots if they don't intend the facilities to ever be used by humans.<br />Also, they might be thinking of a base that houses people but where robots are used for most of the work outside. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>http://asteroid-invasion.blogspot.com</p><p>http://www.solvengineer.com/asteroid-invasion.html </p><p> </p> </div>

 

[Aetius]

Perhaps humanoid robots could be more effectively teleoperated by trained crews on Earth.<br /><br />I'll believe these Japanese claims about going to the Moon when they can build a lifelike android hottie, like in all those animes. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" />

 

[spacefire]

you'd finally have a girlfriend then?<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />sorry couldn't help it. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>http://asteroid-invasion.blogspot.com</p><p>http://www.solvengineer.com/asteroid-invasion.html </p><p> </p> </div>

 

[Aetius]

<img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />I've been married for a long, long time.

 

[yurkin]

I don’t think the guy that wrote that article did a very good job at reading JAXA_Vision_2025.<br /><font color="yellow"><br /><b>Coming twenty years:</b><br /><br />JAXA anticipates that a project to establish an international human lunar base that would allow for long-term human presence on the Moon would be implemented in twenty years. In carrying out such a project, JAXA will ensure that Japan would play an important role by fully utilizing the technologies that it has developed and accumulated in a strategic manner and that Japan, as advanced science and technology oriented nation, would make appropriate international contributions and share responsibilities.<br /><br />JAXA will develop key technologies that would enable long-term human presence at a lunar base. Such technologies would concern life-support as well as power generation and wireless power transmission, which would enable the maximum use of solar power.</font><br /><br />Getting a humanoid robot base from that is a bit of a stretch I would say. It’s clear from the rest of the document that they are talking about a Lunar Base manned by humans.

 

[no_way]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>Why would you want your robots to be humanoid?<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br />For several reasons, the main one being the amazing flexibility of that form. Its a bit different for space environments, but for earthly environments humanoid form for robots makes immense amount of sense, because all the environments and working tools are already built for humans.<br />Say you want a robot that does household jobs. Which of the three options makes most sense:<br />a) build a spezialised robot for each job, like robo-vacuum, robo-dishwasher, robo-lawnmower etc which will be sitting idle 90% of the time.<br />b) build one big clunky robot with all the necessary tools built in for each job, which will be occupied 90% of the time, but will be useless when you want it to do a new job that it doesnt have a tool for, like go fetch a beer from the fridge <br />c) build a humanoid, that can use existing tools, and do everything that humans can, given the right training/software ?<br /><br />I think the answer will become obvious in not-too-distant future.