Kliper killing capsule may still fall foul of ESA states...

[ragnorak]

<br />Looks like its not home and dry for the successor project to Kliper!<br /><br />http://62.189.48.33/Articles/2006/06/23/Navigation/177/207398/ESA+to+finalise+manned+capsule+contributions+at+July.html<br />

 

[tohaki]

Kliper is being replaced by a capsule? If that is the case then why not just put one on the ATV service module? ESA has already carried out a re-entry test with the ARD and is planning another in the not too distant future to develop Mars sample return technology for the Aurora programme. I'm sure the data from it would be just as valid for a manned capsule.

 

[gofer]

The thing is ESA already conducted capsule studies in the 80s and onwards! If not for that dud, the Hermes, they could have been already flying in LEO in their own craft.<br /><br />http://www.abo.fi/~mlindroo/Station/Slides/sld076.htm<br />http://www.abo.fi/~mlindroo/Station/Slides/sld089.htm<br />http://www.abo.fi/~mlindroo/Station/Slides/sld090.htm

 

[tohaki]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>The thing is ESA already conducted capsule studies in the 80s and onwards! If not for that dud, the Hermes, they could have been already flying in LEO in their own craft.<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br />Yes, sadly that is what sometimes happens when you aim to high. I would certainly prefer an operational capsule design with a tiny Norwegian flag on it to artwork of a shuttle design with a tiny Norwegian flag on it.

 

[publiusr]

I seem to remember artwork of Ariane 5 with a capsule atop it.

 

[tohaki]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>I seem to remember artwork of Ariane 5 with a capsule atop it.<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote>Here you go:<br /><br />http://www.esa.int/images/pha-142-large.jpg

 

[publiusr]

So, Stumpy is already with us--in a sense.<br /><br />Just put a capsule atop it.