Mars - Matter of Illusions

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<p>I'm sorry for deleting the initial post. I would say: let illusionary be illusionary. There is no sense to discuss semi science fiction stuff in truly science blog.&nbsp;Leave, please, this amazing artifact which <font color="#003399">a_lost_packet_</font> created, it might explain all the stuff&nbsp;in a best way&nbsp;<img src="http://sitelife.livescience.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif" border="0" alt="Laughing" title="Laughing" />. I wasn't stung,&nbsp;I just don't see if it is really appropriate to make mumba jumba in&nbsp;a scientific forum.&nbsp;Again sorry <img src="http://sitelife.livescience.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-smile.gif" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" />&nbsp;Still continue working.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
 
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<p>Not really related to the subject of this forum, moved to "The Unexplained"</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Not really related to the subject of this forum, moved to "The Unexplained" <br />Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV></p><p>The perfect place.&nbsp; At least one, and likely many, participants are "all wet".<br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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Well, that's true. But you have to "be wet" when you see unexplained things. You still need to try - maybe, some facts can be interesting to discuss. As I said - I'm not stating, just sharing my findings and look for opinions. Something you can't explain with formula =) I'm not chasing UFOs or whatever.&nbsp;Just look at a satellite image, analyze it and see what is there. Sometimes it gives&nbsp;interesting results.
 
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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Well, that's true. But you have to "be wet" when you see unexplained things. You still need to try - maybe, some facts can be interesting to discuss. As I said - I'm not stating, just sharing my findings and look for opinions. Something you can't explain with formula =) <br />Posted by EP</DIV><br /><br />But which did not belong in the forum you posted it in. No biggie, the thread has found it's home... :) <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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<p>For sure =) I was thinking where to put it =) Still I didn't&nbsp;think out&nbsp;dinosaurs or whatever. Perhaps, it is a matter of illusions, although other people also see what I saw. It is really interesting for me to discuss it anyway whether it is a science fiction (good scenario for Hollywood perhaps) or partly real stuff =)</p>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>...Posted by EP</DIV></p><p><br /> <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/5/13/954dc80a-1f29-4354-adc7-952070e7fb09.Medium.jpg" alt="" width="360" height="372" /><br />&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>
 
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that was damn near the funniest thing ive seen all day <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p align="center"><font color="#808080">-------------- </font></p><p align="center"><font size="1" color="#808080"><em>Let me start out with the standard disclaimer ... I am an idiot, I know almost nothing, I haven’t taken calculus, I don’t work for NASA, and I am one-quarter Bulgarian sheep dog.  With that out of the way, I have several stupid questions... </em></font></p><p align="center"><font size="1" color="#808080"><em>*** A few months blogging can save a few hours in research ***</em></font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>that was damn near the funniest thing ive seen all day Posted by Manwh0re</DIV></p><p><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif" border="0" alt="Laughing" title="Laughing" /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>
 
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EP

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'> <br />Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV></p><p>Nice joke <img src="http://sitelife.livescience.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif" border="0" alt="Laughing" title="Laughing" />&nbsp;Why didn't I guess to include this stone into my analysis before?&nbsp;Do you have a copyright on your masterpiece? <img src="http://sitelife.livescience.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif" border="0" alt="Laughing" title="Laughing" /><img src="http://sitelife.livescience.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif" border="0" alt="Laughing" title="Laughing" />&nbsp;It is just so cool especially these red lines... <img src="http://sitelife.livescience.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-cool.gif" border="0" alt="Cool" title="Cool" />&nbsp;I think that you have&nbsp;far better skills in finding sense in amorphic geostructures. Definitely.</p>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Nice joke &nbsp;Why didn't I guess to include this stone into my analysis before?&nbsp;Do you have a copyright on your masterpiece? &nbsp;It is just so cool especially these red lines... &nbsp;I think that you have&nbsp;far better skills in finding sense in amorphic geostructures. Definitely. Posted by EP</DIV></p><p>It's "humorous" tis true.&nbsp; But, it's also meant to have a little bit of instructional value.&nbsp; Seriously..&nbsp;</p><p>Look at it.&nbsp; You see this big rock that looks like a dinosaur head.. to someone.&nbsp; That has obviously been signaled out as significant by someone since it's outlined and commented.&nbsp; But, what about the cow in the back?</p><p>There are so many things that are awe-inspiring and wonderful contained in the information we receive from our explorations of Space!&nbsp; Really, there are!&nbsp; There are legions of people that hungrily waite by terminals, eager to see even the smallest, most miniscule bits of new data about the World, or more appropriately, Worlds around us.&nbsp; It doesn't take someone making up ideas to make space exploration fascinating or full of mystery and excitement.</p><p>Yet, some people can't see the truely amazing bits of revelation in Science simply because they would rather invent their own which, as it turns out, are usually not as exciting as the truth.&nbsp; When reality can be so intriguing, why invent fiction to detract from it?&nbsp; It's like "not being able to see the forest for the trees."&nbsp; Or, in the case of this pic, the cow for the imagined dinosaur.. </p><p>Note: IIRC, that particular picture, unedited of course, was used by some poster long ago who insisted it was evidence that dinosaurs were on the moon.&nbsp; They actually maintained that was a dinosaur skull.&nbsp; I made the same point then, or tried, and am trying to make the same point now by resurrecting that pic. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>
 
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EP

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>It's "humorous" tis true.&nbsp; But, it's also meant to have a little bit of instructional value.&nbsp; Seriously..&nbsp;Look at it.&nbsp; You see this big rock that looks like a dinosaur head.. to someone.&nbsp; That has obviously been signaled out as significant by someone since it's outlined and commented.&nbsp; But, what about the cow in the back?There are so many things that are awe-inspiring and wonderful contained in the information we receive from our explorations of Space!&nbsp; Really, there are!&nbsp; There are legions of people that hungrily waite by terminals, eager to see even the smallest, most miniscule bits of new data about the World, or more appropriately, Worlds around us.&nbsp; It doesn't take someone making up ideas to make space exploration fascinating or full of mystery and excitement.Yet, some people can't see the truely amazing bits of revelation in Science simply because they would rather invent their own which, as it turns out, are usually not as exciting as the truth.&nbsp; When reality can be so intriguing, why invent fiction to detract from it?&nbsp; It's like "not being able to see the forest for the trees."&nbsp; Or, in the case of this pic, the cow for the imagined dinosaur.. Note: IIRC, that particular picture, unedited of course, was used by some poster long ago who insisted it was evidence that dinosaurs were on the moon.&nbsp; They actually maintained that was a dinosaur skull.&nbsp; I made the same point then, or tried, and am trying to make the same point now by resurrecting that pic. <br />Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV></p><p>This was really nice image and I truly can mention that I like it 100% without any jokes or whatever. Our brain and our perception of the world is an interesting thing. Pseudoscience or unapproved facts should never dominate in the world, otherwise we would be in a big dilusion. Unfortunately, today flows of information are sometimes so conflicting that it is easy to start believing in fiction, creating some kind of an illusionary shell around. The average man can't value achievements of science because s/he just can't understand 95% of it without explaination. That's why fictional world chewed over by some authors is accepted much better. </p><p>I don't want to make pseudoscience which I consider to be unfair for people. This sudden obsession about Lines and other things was quite interesting for me personally but it shouldn't affect others if there is no strong argument behind it. I was just thinking that even if there is an intelligent life, why should it has the same perceptual levels as humans and then I came up with multilayer image mapping when one object in the background contributes somehow to what is seen on the foreground. I was trying to "look behind". Then some of the structures in Nazca Desert became more interesting and structures in other places also. But this is an edge of illusions. Unfortunately, in this case the truth starts to belong to the eye of the beholder, . I can't understand how to delayer&nbsp;structures to prove something so&nbsp;I&nbsp;will just put&nbsp;it in some folder&nbsp;with a name "mind games" and make it my hobby to understand the borders of my perception and my brain. Agree with you fully that reality is very intriguing and I can say that I'm always driven to understand it better. But sometimes routine of a big city life makes you find some dilusions. Sometimes it is just needed to experience different life because our real world is very small.&nbsp;And people can't do it in real so they start creating their fictional&nbsp;"envelope" or dreaming. The latter&nbsp;one I like more. For example, my modest dream is that one day I will be able to step on Mars like many others and say: "Wow! What a beautiful world." We will never understand the whole Universe, but it is nice to try <img src="http://sitelife.livescience.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-smile.gif" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /></p>
 
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