I am struck by the fact that, when I got my first big telescope - I got (and still have) - Norton's Star Atlas in part because it had a cardboard sheet that had the list of Messier objects.<br /><br />A lot can change in almost 30 years. <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />Wayne <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>"1) Give no quarter; 2) Take no prisoners; 3) Sink everything." Admiral Jackie Fisher</p> </div>