Moon Landings Faked? (and all other space mission fakery)

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dhu1988

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I have had this discussion with non belevers in the past. I like to bring up the fact that hundreds of thousands of people were involved in design, manufacture, funding etc.etc. I ask them to tell me how they would keep such a huge farce a secrete. If that isnt enough, ask them why they would try to pull it off six times.
 
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2001Kubrick

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dhu1988":3araxpp8 said:
I have had this discussion with non belevers in the past. I like to bring up the fact that hundreds of thousands of people were involved in design, manufacture, funding etc.etc. I ask them to tell me how they would keep such a huge farce a secrete. If that isnt enough, ask them why they would try to pull it off six times.

I think it's mostly due to lack of education. Sure, going to a strange new world seems quite unbelievable at first. But, once you understand HOW it was done, and HOW impossible it would have been to fabricate each aspect, opinions change. I've found that rational and logical individuals can then easily deduce that we landed on the moon. Any other scenario is simply preposterous.
 
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ZenGalacticore

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2001Kubrick":1vvs12ex said:
dhu1988":1vvs12ex said:
I have had this discussion with non belevers in the past. I like to bring up the fact that hundreds of thousands of people were involved in design, manufacture, funding etc.etc. I ask them to tell me how they would keep such a huge farce a secrete. If that isnt enough, ask them why they would try to pull it off six times.

I think it's mostly due to lack of education. Sure, going to a strange new world seems quite unbelievable at first. But, once you understand HOW it was done, and HOW impossible it would have been to fabricate each aspect, opinions change. I've found that rational and logical individuals can then easily deduce that we landed on the moon. Any other scenario is simply preposterous.

Rational and logical individuals would never have believed- for ONE second- that it was faked in the first place, IMO.
 
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Dimethyltriptamine420

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Personally, I think its very possible that it was faked. The U.S. government definitley had a motive to fake it. If you disagree with that, then you're a moron. You can't deny the space race. Plus there was OVERWHELMING evidence suggesting that it was faked. The biggest piece of evidence, in my opinion, was the the flag blowing in the wind. NASA and Space.com tried to say it was blowing cause they made it with wire. That don't explain crap about why it was blowing. There is way more evidence, like how was a footprint left behind if theres no water on the moon. And why the astronauts weren't affected by the radiation. Or why objects in the picture were actually in front of the crosshairs in the picture. Another big one was why there were no stars out in the vast ocean of space in the background. Plus a bunch of people connected to NASA and the U.S. government died right before they were about to go public with doubt about the moon landing. There is so much evidence its not even funny. NASA and Space.com TRY to sidestep the accusations, but they do an extremely piss poor job of it.
 
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a_lost_packet_

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Dimethyltriptamine420":pzs3x2rk said:
Personally, I think its very possible that it was faked. The U.S. government definitley had a motive to fake it. If you disagree with that, then you're a moron. You can't deny the space race. Plus there was OVERWHELMING evidence suggesting that it was faked. The biggest piece of evidence, in my opinion, was the the flag blowing in the wind. NASA and Space.com tried to say it was blowing cause they made it with wire. That don't explain crap about why it was blowing. There is way more evidence, like how was a footprint left behind if theres no water on the moon. And why the astronauts weren't affected by the radiation. Or why objects in the picture were actually in front of the crosshairs in the picture. Another big one was why there were no stars out in the vast ocean of space in the background. Plus a bunch of people connected to NASA and the U.S. government died right before they were about to go public with doubt about the moon landing. There is so much evidence its not even funny. NASA and Space.com TRY to sidestep the accusations, but they do an extremely piss poor job of it.

You haven't read one bit of anything having to do with explaining all of these so-called bits of "evidence" you present, have you?
 
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dlee0708

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a_lost_packet_":2j2rrefx said:
Dimethyltriptamine420":2j2rrefx said:
Personally, I think its very possible that it was faked. The U.S. government definitley had a motive to fake it. If you disagree with that, then you're a moron. You can't deny the space race. Plus there was OVERWHELMING evidence suggesting that it was faked. The biggest piece of evidence, in my opinion, was the the flag blowing in the wind. NASA and Space.com tried to say it was blowing cause they made it with wire. That don't explain crap about why it was blowing. There is way more evidence, like how was a footprint left behind if theres no water on the moon. And why the astronauts weren't affected by the radiation. Or why objects in the picture were actually in front of the crosshairs in the picture. Another big one was why there were no stars out in the vast ocean of space in the background. Plus a bunch of people connected to NASA and the U.S. government died right before they were about to go public with doubt about the moon landing. There is so much evidence its not even funny. NASA and Space.com TRY to sidestep the accusations, but they do an extremely piss poor job of it.

You haven't read one bit of anything having to do with explaining all of these so-called bits of "evidence" you present, have you?

Holy Moly, not only has he not read one bit of anything, he accuses NASA and Space.com of sidestepping the accusations. Geez, its been explained head on umpteen times.

Dimethyltriptamine420 , maybe you can disagree with their explanations (which if you would really look for the explanations I think it's pretty hard to disagree), but I don't see how you could say its been sidesteped.
 
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2001Kubrick

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Dimethyltriptamine420":qohoakmc said:
Personally, I think its very possible that it was faked. The U.S. government definitley had a motive to fake it. If you disagree with that, then you're a moron. You can't deny the space race. Plus there was OVERWHELMING evidence suggesting that it was faked. The biggest piece of evidence, in my opinion, was the the flag blowing in the wind. NASA and Space.com tried to say it was blowing cause they made it with wire. That don't explain crap about why it was blowing. There is way more evidence, like how was a footprint left behind if theres no water on the moon. And why the astronauts weren't affected by the radiation. Or why objects in the picture were actually in front of the crosshairs in the picture. Another big one was why there were no stars out in the vast ocean of space in the background. Plus a bunch of people connected to NASA and the U.S. government died right before they were about to go public with doubt about the moon landing. There is so much evidence its not even funny. NASA and Space.com TRY to sidestep the accusations, but they do an extremely piss poor job of it.

There was/is not ANY evidence that is was faked. NONE whatsoever. You do realize that every question (or supposed 'proof') you've said has been asked by amateur's for years...and can be answered by a simple google search?

I'm not trying to embarrass you or anything. Here are few answers to your questions:

1) Radiation-The astronauts were not signficantly affected by radiation exposure because they were shielded. The aluminum hull of the spacecraft protected them while going through the Van Allen radiation belts. The radiation is much less on the lunar surface, but they were still insulated enough.

2) No stars- The faint light of the stars cannot be picked up even on earth with that camera. The exposure time was much too short. This is basic photography. If you don't believe me, go outside with your personal camera (much better than they had in this 60s and 70s by the way) and take a picture of the sky. Tell me how many stars show up? None.

3) "Plus a bunch of people connected to NASA and the U.S. government died" what are you even talking about? Do you have a source? How would you know this?

The fact that this is your first post leads me to believe you are just another conspiracy theorist looking for proof to support his claims. Unfortunately for you, no one has found any credible evidence in 40 years that the Apollo missions were not 100% real and authentic.

Anyways, your misunderstand (or purposely ignored) answers to the questions are irrelevant to the broader aspect of the lunar landings. I'm sure you've heard some of these facts before, but really take a hard look at them:

400,000 people and contractors worked on Apollo. In 40 years, no deathbed confessions, nothing.

The Soviets followed us via spy satellites all the way to the moon. They had every reason to hate us and expose a fraud, yet even they agree that we landed.

We picked up 840 lbs of moonrock that could only have come from the moon (moonrocks have a unique 40% oxygen by mass signature, this is not found on earth). These rocks have been verified by scientists throughout the world and not ONE single geologist has ever raised doubts.

There are also a handful of satellites (NASA, Japanese, Indian, and Russian) that have photographed the lunar modules and astronauts footpaths still on the moon. You can even see these for yourself if you google "LRO apollo photos".

None of these things could be anything but the truth. It's not that I trust NASA or the government, it's that they don't have the capability to "fake" any of these previous things I mentioned. The only course of action is to agree with the scientific community, experts and PHDs around the world, who are 100% certain that man landed on the moon. This has nothing to do with politics, what you think about conspiracies, anything. It's just fact.

Google search the satellite photos of the moon. You can see for yourself that the LM's, the astronauts footpaths, and scientific equipment is all still there. Case closed.
 
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abq_farside

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Dimethyltriptamine420":20tr9be6 said:
Personally, I think its very possible that it was faked. .....

Just another poorly done hit and run post.
 
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CommonMan

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So in other words all the young people who wasn't even born yet, and belive it was faked, are really saying us old people that really did see it happen are ALL lying. That a bunch of liars.
 
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2001Kubrick

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CommonMan":1eocf41v said:
So in other words all the young people who wasn't even born yet, and belive it was faked, are really saying us old people that really did see it happen are ALL lying. That a bunch of liars.

I wasn't born before 1972.... and I know we landed on the moon. Apparently I'm in on the big conspiracy too :)
 
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jim48

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Hi there! It's me, the guy who started this thread. The fact that this thread continues to thrive fascinates and saddens me at the same time. The moon landings faked? What a bunch of crap!!! Okay, so I believe that an alien ship crash-landed near Roswell, New Mexico, back in 1947, and the Air Force grabbed it, started to take credit for it then got told to shut up about it, but $20 billion in '60s dollars for Apollo and it ended up looking worse on camera than the crappy sets of Lost in Space?!! On one hand the lunar landings were extraordinary, on the other so what? The Moon has always been a dead, lifeless, boring, ugly piece of rock. It took our best brains and technology to get us there. Now let's apply our best brains and technology to getting a manned Mars mission!
 
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ZenGalacticore

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Yeah Jim, I agree. And 'dime's' input was obviously a 'hit and run', as another member put it.

I don't know though. "Dimethylatriptamine-420" sounds like an hallucinegenic drug that has become self-aware! :lol: :cool:

Why was the flag 'blowing'?... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah. We weren't smart enough, while faking the landings, to turn off the air conditioner in the studio!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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Archer17

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I didn't see this posted so I'll plop this here - Chandrayaan images confirms Apollo 15 landing

I looked around (be careful, a lot of the South Asian sites out there carrying this story are pop-up infested and could contain spyware) to see if there's any images but didn't see any. The above site does state (bolding mine):
The ISRO scientist, in his paper 'Chandrayaan I: TMC and HYSI data analysis for Apollo landing sites and Mare Orientale' has established that the Apollo 15 was not a hoax. The paper will be released for general public after two months.
So it might be awhile before we hopefully see what, HB nonsense aside, should be some cool images.
 
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Wellington1114

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I honestly don't see how anyone would belive it was faked. I could understand it back in the day because going to the moon was straight out of science fiction at the time, but now everyone knows how much we've accomplished since then. We wouldn't be nearly as advanced as we are now with our endless satelittes and pin pointing gps. I figured that rumor would have dissolved shortly after :D
 
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brandbll

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Kerberos":fcg3qml5 said:
So how much are they paying you people to help cover up the hoax?

We aren't at liberty to tell you peons...
 
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MeteorWayne

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8237558.stm

"Two Bangladeshi newspapers have apologised after publishing an article taken from a satirical US website which claimed the Moon landings were faked.

The Daily Manab Zamin said US astronaut Neil Armstrong had shocked a news conference by saying he now knew it had been an "elaborate hoax".

Neither they nor the New Nation, which later picked up the story, realised the Onion was not a genuine news site.

Both have now apologised to their readers for not checking the story.

"We thought it was true so we printed it without checking," associate editor Hasanuzzuman Khan told the AFP news agency.

"We didn't know the Onion was not a real news site."

The article said Mr Armstrong had told a news conference he had been "forced to reconsider every single detail of the monumental journey after watching a few persuasive YouTube videos and reading several blog posts" by a conspiracy theorist. "

:lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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origin

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MeteorWayne":2zuv8wie said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8237558.stm

"Two Bangladeshi newspapers have apologised after publishing an article taken from a satirical US website which claimed the Moon landings were faked.

The Daily Manab Zamin said US astronaut Neil Armstrong had shocked a news conference by saying he now knew it had been an "elaborate hoax".

Neither they nor the New Nation, which later picked up the story, realised the Onion was not a genuine news site.

Both have now apologised to their readers for not checking the story.

"We thought it was true so we printed it without checking," associate editor Hasanuzzuman Khan told the AFP news agency.

"We didn't know the Onion was not a real news site."

The article said Mr Armstrong had told a news conference he had been "forced to reconsider every single detail of the monumental journey after watching a few persuasive YouTube videos and reading several blog posts" by a conspiracy theorist. "

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Holy crap that's outstanding! Gotta love the Onion...
 
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darkmatter4brains

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I didn't read through this whole thread, BUT ...

at the rate we're going, I will be surprised if NASA can even FAKE a moon landing by 2020!!! :x
 
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Smersh

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Hi darkmatter4brains. I'm not posting this to comment on your post - I just wanted to say I love your username. :lol: Nice one bro! :lol:
 
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darkmatter4brains

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Smersh":dw1jlelx said:
Hi darkmatter4brains. I'm not posting this to comment on your post - I just wanted to say I love your username. :lol: Nice one bro! :lol:

Thanks Smersh! It's a little theme I have going. On climbing forums I'm granite4brains, on science forums I'm darkmatter4brains. And, in real life I'm a shi.... well, nevermind :)
 
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ZenGalacticore

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Regarding the Onion and the re-print of its article: Re-printing 'news' articles without checking the source seems to be the plague of internet based 'journalism' these days. Pretty soon, millions begin to believe whatever they read because they "read it on the internet".
 
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Teru

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Obviously, it is not.

It is quite enjoyable for watching the astronauts show up on the videos.
They picked up a rock and say “Hello” to the audiences.
Then they take a photo and come back to our Earth.

Presidents will give them a warm welcome.

It is difficult to appreciate with the ideas of the NASA to transplant microorganisms of the Earth to another planet.
(I am referring to the space migrations.)

Anyway it is possible for us to bring them there.
(No matter the Earth is a conscious living object or not, it is a mission impossible.)

After arriving on the Mars, they will say “hello” to all of us again.
Pick up a rock and take a photo.
As I used to say, “History repeats itself”.

It is a joke. Maybe more.

Teru Wong
 
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supn

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Reality is probably twofold: we did go to the Moon, but the photographic proof of the landings was staged.
 
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origin

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supn":17f9ctz3 said:
Reality is probably twofold: we did go to the Moon, but the photographic proof of the landings was staged.

Or we really went to Mars and just said the photographs were of the moon, when it was really Mars.
 

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