Name change

[zarnic]

I have an ol book that lists all the <i>known</i> planets and has <b>Hershel</b> instead of Uranus, and as the last one. Why was its' name changed and when? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Wisdom doesn't automatically come with old age. Nothing does - except wrinkles.</em> A. Van Buren, 1978<br />* <em>An unbreakable toy is useful for breaking other toys.</em>  -- according to Van Roy</p> </div>

 

[vogon13]

That book might be worth some serious $$$.<br /><br />Too bad it doesn't say Georgium Sidus for Uranus.<br /><br />Name change due to astronomers wanting consistency.<br /><br />Uranus is the father of Saturn, and Saturn is the father of Jupiter.<br /><br />(Neptune is not the father of Uranus, myths aren't clear who is Uranus' dad)<br /><br /><br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#ff0000"><strong>TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#339966"><strong>So many people, so few recipes !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#0000ff"><strong>Let's clean up this stinkhole !!</strong></font> </p> </div>

 

[adrenalynn]

Yeah, if it said "Georgium Sidus" (Named by Herschel for King George III) - it'd be from the mid-late 1700's.<br /><br />William Herschel has a bunch of stuff named after him. At least craters on Mars, the Moon, and Mimas (which he discovered). He discovered all kinds'a stuff, including infrared radiation.<br /><br />I believe it was Jerome Lalande that proposed the name "Herschel". But Bode (who has a whole freakin' Galaxy named after him! [M81]) put forth Uranus, god of the sky.<br /><br />What book is this that you have? I'd be *really* interested to know! The Brit's "Nautical Almanac" was the final well-documented hold-out that I'm aware of. We had a copy in college from 1842 that had it as "Herschel" but in 1855 the copy had it as "Uranus". An encyclopedia from the same period had it as "Uranus" already. (Ahhh, I can actually smell the "Stacks" as I write that...) I remember a quiz question on it, in fact.<br /><br />Herschel died in 1822, and traditionally names and discoveries don't get overturned until someone dies. So figure 1823 or probably later, but before 1850ish.<br /><br />I can't check further at the moment. Googling from the palmtop is painful and my memory is getting fallible. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>.</p><p><font size="3">bipartisan</font>  (<span style="color:blue" class="pointer"><span class="pron"><font face="Lucida Sans Unicode" size="2">bī-pär'tĭ-zən, -sən</font></span></span>) [Adj.]  Maintaining the ability to blame republications when your stimulus plan proves to be a devastating failure.</p><p><strong><font color="#ff0000"><font color="#ff0000">IMPE</font><font color="#c0c0c0">ACH</font> <font color="#0000ff"><font color="#c0c0c0">O</font>BAMA</font>!</font></strong></p> </div>

 

[zarnic]

Book info, ah... got it! It is a thin one, ment for shools and academies, by Alva Clark, A.B. . Titled: New System of Astronomy. in Question and Answer. Published by Roe Lockwood & Son of New York. The first and last blank pages are gone so no date. I bought it years ago because it was old and have a feeling that most of the numbers have changed as we know more. The exception are those school-books with Pluto as our last planet... they are now out of date. (darn) <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Wisdom doesn't automatically come with old age. Nothing does - except wrinkles.</em> A. Van Buren, 1978<br />* <em>An unbreakable toy is useful for breaking other toys.</em>  -- according to Van Roy</p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

Found this online:<br /><br />A New System of Astronomy in Question and Answer, Alva Clark, R. Lockwood, 7th edition, 1840, 72 pages, Quarter Cloth<br /><br />That's an old one!!! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[adrenalynn]

Adsabs says 1843.<br /><br />A new system of astronomy, in question and answer. For the use of schools and academies. <br />Authors: <br /> Clark, Alva <br />Publication: <br /> New York, R. Lockwood, 1843 <br /><br /><br />What other interesting tidbits are in there?!?<br /><br />Neat find!<br /><br /> [edit: dang it! I *must* refresh pages before I reply. Sigh.]<br /><br />Digging further, if your reference says 1840 for a 7th edition, MW, and mine says 1843 for an unidentified edition, and I see that there were a total of 9 editions in Absabs - then it could probably be anything from 1820-1849, right? I love a literary mystery! <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />Why don't I find used books that cool?!?! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>.</p><p><font size="3">bipartisan</font>  (<span style="color:blue" class="pointer"><span class="pron"><font face="Lucida Sans Unicode" size="2">bī-pär'tĭ-zən, -sən</font></span></span>) [Adj.]  Maintaining the ability to blame republications when your stimulus plan proves to be a devastating failure.</p><p><strong><font color="#ff0000"><font color="#ff0000">IMPE</font><font color="#c0c0c0">ACH</font> <font color="#0000ff"><font color="#c0c0c0">O</font>BAMA</font>!</font></strong></p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

I have a few that go back to around 1900, but nothing from the 1800's AFAIK.<br /><br />Have a neat pamplet on Halley's comet that dates from the previous return, circa 1910, too.<br /><br />Sort of a family treasure <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />MW <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[alokmohan]

Immediately after discovery it was naned Hershel.Then it was thought of being named arter King Feorge.Uranus was then named. I learn it from Asimov.