Northern Lights from 42,000 feet / 12,000 metres.

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Last night did something absolutely fantastic.

Just want to share it here.

Northern Lights from 42,000 feet / 12,000 metres. Monarch Airlines Airbus A321.

It was really strange. We took off from Gatwick Airport (situated between London & Brighton on the south coast), headed to the north east initially over eastern London, Essex, Suffolk & Norfolk, then out over the North Sea, then headed due north. We could see Sunderland, Middlesborough, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, etc to the west, as we passed by, though we were very high up by this point.

When level with Edinburgh & every one seated, all of the interior lights went out & we were in total absolute darkness at 36,000 feet. After about 10 minutes the eyes adjusted & the view out of the window literally blew you away. The stars as you have never seen them before. Being so high up, they do not twinkle as the air is too thin for that to happen & you could easily see the Winter Milky Way, passing to the east of Orion & many other star clusters, difficult to see from the ground, as the air is often too hazy & unsteady.

M44 Praesepe, in Cancer just spectacular (with averted vision, face pressed up against the plane window), a large hazy cluster difficult to see from the ground. The Milky Way through Cygnus which was on it's side just above the eastern horizon, well, never seen anything like it, not even from the Sahara in Egypt. The North American Nebula was visible quite clearly to the naked eye. The Pleiades in Taurus, I reckon I saw twelve, the Hyades looking like an arrow head pointing straight down, etc.

The reddish colours of Betelgeuse, Aldebaran & Arcturus were very obvious to say the least.

Then the captain announced either passing over the north of Scotland & heading towards Iceland or keep the current heading North & circle off the coast of Norway @ 62 North.

The Aurora at this point was elusive, then a faint glow appeared dead ahead, almost like a false dawn (although this was approx 11:15 PM now), so the decision was taken to head for the point off Norway, as a more northerly vantage point looked the better option. So we kept heading north past Orkney & the Shetlands in absolute darkness.

The glow became lighter than after a while it really brightened up & became a huge green arc. Just absolutely stunning.

Then we headed back & passing over Norfolk, the cabin lights were put back on (felt like someone was shining a torch in the face, because of course we were all dark adapted).

I attempted some photographs, hopefully some will have come ot OK. The Airbus was superbly stable & brilliantly piloted, so it was worth attempting some longer exposures.

Andrew Brown.
 
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Re: Northern Lights from 42,000 feet / 12,000 metres.

Hi Andrew, I didn't know Monarch were doing flights like this, for astronomy enthusiasts. Sounds cool! :cool:

I took a look at the photos on the link and I hope the ones you took come out good and you can post them. Thanks!
 
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Hi Smersh,

Mine really did not work, I guess the equipment I had was not ideal from a moving plane, but I did capture the aurora a bit.

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Also the Winter sky setting in the west from altitude, but also not very good. Shame really as I have taken some nice real ones from the ground. However shows how Sirius has dimmed in the murk close to the horizon & worth remembering the horizon is actually curved & below the level point from this altitude.

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So my efforts are pretty crap as compared to the professional Astronomer / Astrophotographer Pete Lawrence who was also on the plane.

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Andrew Brown.
 
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Hi Andrew, I can see why you are disappointed with your results, but I would imagine that taking photos of auroras or stars from inside the cabin of an airliner is probably not easy and might require specialised equipment (which the pro photographer probably has.) You are trying to take photos through fairly thick perspex.

Having said that, I'm sure it will be an experience you won't forget in a hurry and thanks for posting your results! :mrgreen:
 
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Smersh":3bwyexzy said:
Hi Andrew, I can see why you are disappointed with your results, but I would imagine that taking photos of auroras or stars from inside the cabin of an airliner is probably not easy and might require specialised equipment (which the pro photographer probably has.) You are trying to take photos through fairly thick perspex.

Having said that, I'm sure it will be an experience you won't forget in a hurry and thanks for posting your results! :mrgreen:

Thank you very much Smersh.

Pete Lawrence had a very special tripod that largely dampened out any vibrations etc. Also he had a specialised super fast digital camera that operated at ISO 3200, where as I had film @ only ISO 400.

I will be booking again for a seat this November & again next March. It was an incredible experience, the cabin totally darkened, at very high altitude, no moon, no light pollution, certainly no clouds & hazes at this altitude. Whilst we mostly circled @ 36,000 feet / 11,000 metres, we did climb to 42,000 feet / 12,800 metres (the highest I've ever been) for the final circle, before descending & heading back south to Gatwick Airport. The aircraft had no luggage or cargo on board & was only partially fuelled, so the plane was lighter & we could really climb (this would not have been possible had the plane been fully laden), into the lower stratosphere, for a spell binding view, for a brief period.

Just looking out of the window, it was very apparent that we were at a great altitude, the stars generally did not twinkle, only those close to the horizon did, the sky actually dipped below the level point as the horizon fell away & the clarity, just blew you away. As I said earlier, I have seen the night sky from the Sahara Desert in both Egypt & Tunisia & I thought that was something, but compared to this, there's no comparison.

I will be doing this again, for sure. Hopefully next time I will have the use of better equipment & be able to take some decent pictures. Need to get a DSLR camera. Guess what I'll be looking for when the next sales come up????

Andrew Brown.
 
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I think I'm guilty of envy here. 'A' for effort on your photos 3488, but cool that there was a pro photog on the flight. I keep thinking of Michael Palin's dungeon character in 'Life of Brian' when I say: "You luck'ee, luck'ee, bostard!" Very cool brother.
Btw, how's 3489 doing? :)
 
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3488":3ir91t83 said:
... I will be doing this again, for sure. Hopefully next time I will have the use of better equipment & be able to take some decent pictures. Need to get a DSLR camera. Guess what I'll be looking for when the next sales come up????

Andrew Brown.

I just did a quick check on EBay of "Digital SLR cameras" and got 340 results here. :mrgreen:
 
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CalliArcale

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Oh, that is too freakin' cool!!!!! What an awesome experience, 3488! Thank you so much for sharing!
 
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Smersh":3nqulcvy said:
3488":3nqulcvy said:
... I will be doing this again, for sure. Hopefully next time I will have the use of better equipment & be able to take some decent pictures. Need to get a DSLR camera. Guess what I'll be looking for when the next sales come up????

Andrew Brown.

I just did a quick check on EBay of "Digital SLR cameras" and got 340 results here. :mrgreen:

Thank you very much Smersh.

Some of them are a bit pricey, that's to be expected, but some look very reasonable indeed. There are a couple that really jump out & I may make a move.

I have bookmarked your link as I will be going back to that site regularly.

I quite like this one, Olympus E 410 10 MP. 10 Mega pixels will produce some fantastic shots. I will enquire about night time & astronomical usage.

Andrew Brown.
 
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CalliArcale":psnfuj03 said:
Oh, that is too freakin' cool!!!!! What an awesome experience, 3488! Thank you so much for sharing!

It was truly remarkable Calli, I will be booking seats on future trips, that much is for sure.

Still had to go through security, shoes off, no sharps, etc, which was very slow, but it was well worth it. Will be going again, definately.

With the link provided by Smersh, hopefull I'll have some better kit with me also.

BTW Calli, you can call me Andrew.

Amdrew Brown.
 
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3488":b3c43atf said:
Thank you very much Smersh.

Some of them are a bit pricey, that's to be expected, but some look very reasonable indeed. There are a couple that really jump out & I may make a move.

I have bookmarked your link as I will be going back to that site regularly.

I quite like this one, Olympus E 410 10 MP. 10 Mega pixels will produce some fantastic shots. I will enquire about night time & astronomical usage.

Andrew Brown.

You're very welcome Andrew. Personally I've never bought anything on Ebay but I believe sellers have various indicators there from buyers as to how reliable they are. My son bought a camper van from there that he's very pleased with, and I know others who have bought some really good bargains, but I would say tread carefully as it's possible to be ripped off in just a few cases.

If you have used the site before you'll know about all that anyway, but if you haven't, there is a help guide about "knowing your seller" here.

As for the cameras themselves, there is a very good review site for digital cameras here.

Good luck!
 
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I have a couple of pics somewhere from North Bay, Ontario of the entire sky lite up with the Northern Lights. I was beautiful. I was like a spider web of the green above & neon green across the entire sky.
 
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