Of course Manny I am against our not going back to the moon! I do indeed think this is a very short sided decision by this particular administration.
But unlike yourself, I am not going to rant and rave against president Obama. I am not going to say he is illegitimate, of a damn lier for everything he says either.
I tell you what Manny, I will indeed condemn the current administration for such shortsightedness, why don't you then join me and others that advocate civilian human space development, and are/were then against such useless and vastly more expensive wars such as Iraq?
As some of the more intelligent here have stated, Viet Nahm killed the greatest civilian human space program in history (I KNOW this to be the truth, as I was a part of that very program)!! If we had truly followed and funded the plans of Von Braun and NASA at the time instead of blowing useless holes in the rice paddies of South Eastern Asia, we would now have colonies on the moon, and even bases on Mars!! So now instead, we are blowing holes in the deserts of the Middle East because some idiotic fanatics choose to kill themselves in a supposedly religious cause (while most of the true believers in that very religion consider these more fanatical idiots to be a total disgrace to that very religion) by flying commercial airliners into buildings! Is there really much of a difference here?
The truest irony is that the Viet Nahm war (and now, of course, a united Viet Nahm is now one of our best trading partners in South Eastern Asia!) was the Democrats (LBJ) war, and the latest such exercise is the product of the Republicans (JW Bush)! So just who do we finally vote for, that now has the knowledge, intelligence, and truth to see that the true future of mankind lies in space?
I actually do NOT know Manny, is there a party of we space oriented geeks?
And if you and others wish to condemn the current administration for betraying what I and other more idealistic progressives believe in, in betraying those of the main-street of America middle class and poor working class Americans for the wealth of Wall Street, then Manny, be my guest!! Of, course in taking such a stand you will quite probably also anger many of the more conservative members here on these boards!
I AM very unhappy that the party of such as FDR has now actually to a great extent gone over to the wealthy management side of things, and in doing so has abandoned the working class (that are the real reason there is even any wealth for the wealthy anyway!)!
So now it IS main-street that is "Mad as Hell, and isn't going to Take It Anymore!" Good, but just who does that leave main-street to vote for?
And to even begin to think that these idiots think that the pittance that goes to NASA is somehow responsible is just plain old BS!
Yes, many of us here did not like the methodology that NASA was using to get us back to the moon, but that did NOT mean that we wanted the program abandoned totally! Modified certainly, but abandoned because it could not be afforded?
And I am sorry, (although I fully support such efforts myself) but such as spacex, which has yet to even launch a rocket with the relatively small power of the Delta II, and will have to launch at least a dozen such rockets to even begin to match any reasonable reliability, let alone profitability at any cost! Is not going to come on as a knight in shining Armour and rescue the civilian human space program! At least within even the life time of my own very young grand son!
Sorry about the relatively long rant Manny, but you would ask wouldn't you? :twisted: :twisted:
And who knows, maybe the more moderate and thinking members of Congress will have better sense?
At any rate Manny, while we may very well disagree in other areas, I know you like myself, have always supported a viable Human Space Effort, and I thank you for it!
So, Have A Very Excellent Day!!