Orion: private jet control panels?

[docm]

NASA Spaceflight article....<br /><br /><blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p><b>NASA studies private jet control panels for Orion</b><br /><br />While Orion may look like a beefed up Apollo on the outside, the interior of the shuttle replacement vehicle - that will travel to the moon and Mars - will be world's apart.<br /><br />NASA is attempting to construct the majority of Orion's control panel layout from off-the-shelf parts, noted in the newly acquired CEV Display Layout presentation, which openly utilizes Gulfstream V SP and Dassault Falcon business jet panel layouts as preferred options for Orion. <br /> /><p><hr /></p></p></blockquote> <br />Image... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[sorehed]

I don't like the 3 DU option because loss of one screen doesn't leave much. And they do fail, usually at the worst time and without warning. I like the 6 DU option; lose one screen and you can just move evrything over to another one.<br /><br />Will this layout have the ability to pull up real-time system schematics on some of the multifunction displays?

 

[docm]

I don't see why not. It's a matter if they want to spend the beans for the heavy duty diagnostics. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[bpfeifer]

I don't care which one they actually choose. I just find it impressive that they are buying off-the-shelf instead of custom building. Even if the components have to go through environmental testing, they'll still be able to cut out whole design steps, and hence reduce costs. This is good thinking on someone's part in the Exploration Systems Directorate. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Brian J. Pfeifer http://sabletower.wordpress.com<br /> The Dogsoldier Codex http://www.lulu.com/sabletower<br /> </div>

 

[spacefire]

Looks more like a homebuilt cockpit setup for Flight Simulator <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>http://asteroid-invasion.blogspot.com</p><p>http://www.solvengineer.com/asteroid-invasion.html </p><p> </p> </div>

 

[steve82]

I don't think they are buying off-the-shelf exactly. There probably aren't any off-the-shelf glass cockpit electronics that will operate in a hard vacuum (required for CEV EVA ops) over the temperature ranges and radiation environment that will be encountered.

 

[PistolPete]

This kind of thing doesn't surprise me, it kind of reminds me of the MEDS Shuttle upgrade about 10 years back.<br /><br />The MEDS upgrade replaced the three monochrome CRTs and various analog flight instruments with nine color mulit-function displays.<br /><br />The official unofficial rumor is that there was nothing wrong with the old system, but the Shuttle astronauts were tired of getting picked on by airline pilots who said that their cockpits looked more futuristic than the Shuttle. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><em>So, again we are defeated. This victory belongs to the farmers, not us.</em></p><p><strong>-Kambei Shimada from the movie Seven Samurai</strong></p> </div>

 

[rocketwatcher2001]

<font color="yellow">but the Shuttle astronauts were tired of getting picked on by airline pilots who said that their cockpits looked more futuristic than the Shuttle. </font><br /><br />Yeah, every time I see an astronaut I make fun of them, but for different reasons. The can only log 8 minutes of multi-engine time, 15 minutes of IFR, 2 weeks of glider time, and since they land within 50 miles of their take-off point, it's not even considered a "cross-country" Who'd ever want to take that job. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[holmec]

This might be a case of a revolving door.<br /><br />A lot of stuff, including materials, we got from the space program. Since then more material and electronic research have been done (generally speaking) and now NASA is looking at 'off the shelf' stuff.<br /><br />What do the very high flying planes use? Like U2 and other civilian extremely high flying aircraft. And the military? I'm sure stuff they use has to be resistant to radiation from nuclear fallout. So maybe the off the shelf stuff is not that far off. And maybe NASA is looking for a contractor that can provide a modified version of their off the shelf product. <br /><br />Its kind of impressive when you think about how far tech has gone, even in the market. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#0000ff"><em>"SCE to AUX" - John Aaron, curiosity pays off</em></font></p> </div>