Pentagon moves to declassify some secret space programs and technologies

[Admin]

The United States Department of Defense (DoD) wants to declassify more space programs in order to boost the nation's military edge in space.

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[yaduff]

That is not smart.

 

[billslugg]

Nothing is being declassified such that it is available to the general public. They are lowering some classifications a notch so we can share information with allies, thus bolstering their forces, which helps protect us.

 

[Atlan0001]

Alfred Thayer Mahan, author of 'The Influence of Sea Power Upon History', said that far flung colonies and other military-civilian bases across the seas were, throughout history, the best backing homelands had for the defense of homelands. It translates to the high seas, the high frontier, the surface of outer space. Governments and militaries can't do it. They can't expand to space frontier on their own any more than they could expand across sea frontiers on their own. The cost of trying to do it, trying for expansion alone, becomes infinite! The U. S. government, among other governments, has already approached infinitizing the cost of any reach to outer space in playing keep away from the general population of the world in order to make space the impossible model for an impossible World Utopia.

 

[yaduff]

But what if nations that are not our allies get a hold of it??

 

[COLGeek]

But what if nations that are not our allies get a hold of it??

They shouldn't be able to. The declassification being described here is to lower levels of classification. They are still classified and not available outside of a need to know basis.

 

[yaduff]

Okay, Thanks for clearing that up!

 

[Atlan0001]

They shouldn't be able to. The declassification being described here is to lower levels of classification. They are still classified and not available outside of a need to know basis.

Practically all of these companies are international now and operate globally throughout the world, including the deep states of our enemies . . . deep state to deep state information (data transfer) wormholes! The instant we have it, develop it, we've given it away (we've internetted (sic) it away (cyberspaced and cybercrimed it away)). The human element . . . well, the robotic element, too . . . has not a clue who it is working for.

We keep trying to fix that problem with secure networks but can't get around the problem of the multi-faces and personalities (the two-faced-ness forked-tongue speaking) of the multinational companies themselves. Classification?! What classifications?! They're open books! Only the honest of the homeland pay attention . . . and are the losers for their honor and honesty. A Civilization in "Decline and Fall".

 

[COLGeek]

Practically all of these companies are international now and operate globally throughout the world, including the deep states of our enemies . . . deep state to deep state information (data transfer) wormholes! The instant we have it, develop it, we've given it away (we've internetted (sic) it away (cyberspaced and cybercrimed it away)).

Having spent more than a few years working with those companies, this is not necessarily true (definitely not in a general sense). It has happened with less sensitive data far more often than with more sensitive data.

Where most of this happens is on the unclassified side of things.

 

[Atlan0001]

Having spent more than a few years working with those companies, this is not necessarily true (definitely not in a general sense). It has happened with less sensitive data far more often than with more sensitive data.

Where most of this happens is on the unclassified side of things.

Our own intelligence agencies practice breaking the system, and they break it . . . it breaks. That has been on the news quite a few times, the secure system being cracked open, even from within, and thieved from.

 

[COLGeek]

Our own intelligence agencies practice breaking the system, and they break it . . . it breaks. That has been on the news quite a few times, the secure system being cracked open, even from within, and thieved from.

There are many different levels of secure systems. Some more secure than others. Many completely inaccessible from external sources.

What you are saying is true, but the context and extent are more nuanced than a general statement can cover.

 

[Atlan0001]

Written elsewhere in main but a specific generality applicable here also (and remember, COLGeek, though long retired, I'm no novice in computing, communications, and information systems in general, either):

I'm always remembering my 'Cicero' and 'Durant', among others.... "A country of too many laws is lawless" -- Cicero (a system of too many rules, too much "order," too great "complexity," is broken -- rule-less "disorder" . . . malignant closed systemic (inbreeding) savagery rather than benign open systemic (frontier) civilization (paraphrasing Will Durant)). Believe it or not, the former is BEGINNING / END extremes state -- one and the same, the latter the MIDDLE (MATURE but still YOUTHFUL "Fountain of Youth") state (as Hawking called it, the "Life Zone" universe state). The two/all three total, eternal states . . . and eternal choices.

 

[yaduff]

Practically all of these companies are international now and operate globally throughout the world, including the deep states of our enemies . . . deep state to deep state information (data transfer) wormholes! The instant we have it, develop it, we've given it away (we've internetted (sic) it away (cyberspaced and cybercrimed it away)). The human element . . . well, the robotic element, too . . . has not a clue who it is working for.

We keep trying to fix that problem with secure networks but can't get around the problem of the multi-faces and personalities (the two-faced-ness forked-tongue speaking) of the multinational companies themselves. Classification?! What classifications?! They're open books! Only the honest of the homeland pay attention . . . and are the losers for their honor and honesty. A Civilization in "Decline and Fall".

Very true!