Rings around Mars

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Wouldn't it look bloody great if Phobos really does break up into a ring system rather than hitting the surface of Mars. Annoyance for launches but better than an surface strike. Any of you clever arty types fancy redering me a photo of what it might look like? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

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And why not doing it yourself?! Enjoy<br /><br />http://pds-rings.seti.org/tools/index.html

 

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http://www.astro.umd.edu/~hamilton/research/reprints/ShoHamNic06.pdf#search="phobos%20ring%20around%20mars%20prediction%20picture"

 

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You amaze me with your knowledge. lol. I will have fun thank you.<br /><br />Cheers, SCIpt <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

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Fascinating subject.<br /><br />Shame that we are not around in about 55 million years time to find out.<br /><br />What about in about 750 million years time when Triton is expected to be broken up by Neptune? This will make a ring system that will put Saturn's in the shade!!!<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>

 

[JonClarke]

There is some suggestion that there is already a thin dust ring round Mars associated with Phobos. This was supported by measurments from the Phobos 2 probe which reported some out-gassing from the Moon.<br /><br />Jon <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars</em>  Arthur Clarke</p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

Really?<br />Wow, Jon, any idea where that info is?<br />Off the top of my head, I don't even remember the Phobos 2 mission.<br />Was that a Russion one? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

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How about these links??<br /><br />http://arc.iki.rssi.ru/IPL/phobos.html<br /><br />http://www.solarviews.com/eng/phobos12.htm<br /><br />http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/database/MasterCatalog?sc=1988-059A<br /><br />Hope you can find something useful here.<br /><br />Jon. I had heard something about this before, but nothing since. Both Mars Global Surveyor & Mars Express have encountered Phobos more recently. I also understand that Mars Express in a short while is to make a close encounter with Deimos.<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>

 

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This article from 1995 is complex but reading the introductiona and conclusion gives a good idea of the hypotethical ring system in mars:<br /><br />http://www.astro.umd.edu/~hamilton/research/reprints/Ham96Mars.pdf#search="phobos%20dust%20traces"<br /><br />Russian 1988 and Japanese 1998 missions to Phobos have failed:<br /><br />http://www.nineplanets.org/spacecraft.html<br /><br />http://www.jaxa.jp/missions/projects/sat/exploration/nozomi/index_e.html<br /><br /><br /><br />The sad side of the story for those who love stories. There is no rings so far:<br /><br />http://www.aas.org/publications/baas/v33n3/dps2001/406.htm

 

[JonClarke]

Phobos 2 was a very ambitious and exciting mission to Mars and Phobos in 1988 that unfortunately failed before Phobos encounter. However the mission still returned a lot of information about Mars and Phobos and was by no means a failure. It was also the only space probe to return data on Mars between Viking and Mars Pathfinder - an appalling 20 year gap.<br /><br />Jon <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars</em>  Arthur Clarke</p> </div>

 

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Sorry<br />"failed...to find rings due to Phobos around Mars"<br />

 

[MeteorWayne]

Yeah, a lot of appalling gaps gaps in our exploration of the solar system.<br /><br />Like 34 years since human beings last stepped on the moon.<br /><br />At least the Venus and Mercury gaps are being filled, and we are heading out beyond Neptune again finally. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[JonClarke]

Indeed, but things are changing on every front.<br /><br />Jon <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars</em>  Arthur Clarke</p> </div>