Scientists find highest energy cosmic ray electrons ever seen

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Scientists with the HESS Observatory have identified the most energetic cosmic electrons ever observed. What could this mean for our understanding of the universe?

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[m4n8tpr8b]

40 TeV for an electron with a rest mass of 0.511 MeV, that's a Lorentz factor of 7.8 ×10^7 (meaning it's relativistic mass was 78 million times its rest mass). Still a far cry from the Lorentz factor of the Oh-My-God particle, which - assuming it was a proton - was an insane 3.2×10^11.

 

[Classical Motion]

Impressive numbers. I don’t accept the Lorentz factor as such. Only a portion of that energy is related to velocity. I think one could have a dozen electrons, at the same speed, with different energy levels.

The rotational energy(rest mass) of the electron comes from the rate of acceleration.

Rest mass increases with acceleration, not velocity.

The ratio of rest momentum to kinetic momentum depends on acceleration.

Just a supposition.

Interaction has at least two rates. Velocity of stimulus. And rate of transfer from that velocity. Which depends on density and duration.

Think of velocity as having a ramp. That slope, that rate, has an acceleration. And acceleration riding on that velocity.

That ramp’s slope can be change with acceleration.

And by the way. Acceleration could not occur without a constant time and constant length.

Just some more hayseed supposition.

We are bound with intellect, not time and space.

 

[MHF]

I was not aware of any stars (burning or dark) 2 lightyears from the solar system. Proxima Centauri is double that distance.

 

[stanwaterman]

Impressive numbers. I don’t accept the Lorentz factor as such. Only a portion of that energy is related to velocity. I think one could have a dozen electrons, at the same speed, with different energy levels.

The rotational energy(rest mass) of the electron comes from the rate of acceleration.

Rest mass increases with acceleration, not velocity.

The ratio of rest momentum to kinetic momentum depends on acceleration.

Just a supposition.

Interaction has at least two rates. Velocity of stimulus. And rate of transfer from that velocity. Which depends on density and duration.

Think of velocity as having a ramp. That slope, that rate, has an acceleration. And acceleration riding on that velocity.

That ramp’s slope can be change with acceleration.

And by the way. Acceleration could not occur without a constant time and constant length.

Just some more hayseed supposition.

We are bound with intellect, not time and space.

Rest-mass is constant, the mass at rest! The apparent mass increases with speed not acceleration although if you are accelerated you do feel heavier!

 

[Classical Motion]

The only accelerator I’ve read about is Sol. It emits a particle flux which is accelerated for weeks and months out past Neptune. No one knows where this acceleration ends or where this flux goes.

Electrons and positrons can be accelerated at a faster rate than protons, because of inertia. And the solar wind acceleration doesn’t seem to depend on the inertia. Solar particle flux is 50/50 electrons and protons. The acceleration has an anti-gravity characteristic. And the acceleration is clear across our solar system, NOT a point source acceleration. It’s a system wide acceleration. Seems to flee gravity.

And if they are loosing energy, chances are they are decelerating, casting off energy. They might have had much higher velocities.

It wasn’t mentioned how or where the samples were taken. Maybe I missed it.

But the earth’s fields, capture a portion of the wind deflected. And I’ll bet some of those captures have high accelerations, angular accelerations. With new ratios of mass/velocity. New states.

A physicality supposition. No studies or math to back it up. A picky glean of concepts.

 

[Classical Motion]

It has recently been demonstrated while igniting deuterium, That if you hit a particle at incidence, at the right EM rate, the charge will sit still and contract. Gaining rest mass. No velocity needed.

Particles have quantum steps of inertia and rest mass. From acceleration, not velocity.

It’s just my opinion. Not an authority.

I augured this dynamic before they found it. But I have no references. My only scaffold is classical reasoning. With a classical model. In which I have explained with funnel mechanics. Or attempted to.

Simple science for the simple minded. Me.

 

[WaterRook]

This radiation occurs when high-energy particles collide with the Earth's atmosphere, creating particle showers WHICH CREATE CERENKOV PHOTONS, that the telescopes can detect and analyze.

 

[m4n8tpr8b]

I was not aware of any stars (burning or dark) 2 lightyears from the solar system. Proxima Centauri is double that distance.

Someone along the way probably mixed up parsecs & lightyears.

 

[George²]

Someone along the way probably mixed up parsecs & lightyears.

Not just was forgotten to be added 3 zeros after 2. Closest object is maybe around 2000ly.

 

[skynr13]

I was not aware of any stars (burning or dark) 2 lightyears from the solar system. Proxima Centauri is double that distance.

Good one, MHF! I wondered/thought the same thing.

 

[Torbjorn Larsson]

The best candidates are relatively old supernovas, or strong stellar winds from WR stars

WR stars are relatively rare, which may or may not support the single/few source designation [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf–Rayet_star]. But another team member posed "Supernova remnants or pulsar wind nebulae" [https://skyandtelescope.org/astronomy-news/ultra-energetic-electrons-from-our-astronomical-backyard/].

Pulsar wind nebulae are "a type of nebula sometimes found inside the shell of a supernova remnant (SNR), powered by winds generated by a central pulsar." [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_Pulsar] The Vela Pulsar is surrounded by a pulsar wind nebulae and lies 800 lyrs away, an enticing fit.

Pulsed emission up to 20 TeV has been detected from the Vela pulsar and together with the Crab pulsar at 1.5 TeV[7] are the only two known pulsar with emission in this energy range[8]

 

[Torbjorn Larsson]

But I have no references.

That is obvious for the casual reader who is here for the facts, not the fantasies.

Not just was forgotten to be added 3 zeros after 2. Closest object is maybe around 2000ly.

No, the context was star distances. The source(s) may lie within 1 klyrs or so.

It is interesting how the luminous Vela Pulsar not only attracts the astronomer eyes but the astrophysicist interest.

 

[George²]

Since no star has been discovered in a region as close as two light-years to the Sun, and there are no visible clumps of matter collapsing around the Roche limit of a neutron star or black hole, the only possibility remains that the high-energy particles are produced by an artificial object. This could even be a wormhole open by a frame of exotic matter.