SciFi endings that should have been. PLOT SPOILERS!

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kelvinzero

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I dont know if this happens to anyone else, but I keep watching SciFi movies putting all the clues together and realizing exactly how they are going to end.. and then they dont end that way at all! And my ending was way better than their lame one!

(in my humble opinion anyway :) )

When I think of one, I will post it here. Anyone else is welcome to confess also :)

BEWARE! huge PLOT SPOILERS TO FOLLOW SHORTLY!
 
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kelvinzero

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The 6th Day

THE 6TH DAY.

I quite liked this movie, until the end where the villain revealed himself to be totally morally bankrupt and was killed in typical Arnold fashion. I think there is an unfortunate puritanical meme running around that keeps spinning morality tales to teach us that seeking immortality (except presumably through donating your life savings to some teleevangelist) will bring you to some sort of bad end. It was actually ethically interesting early on, the notion of having a six day period before people were considered to have rights (a morality invented by the villain, because the general world considered cloning immoral, period), and the notion that if you could copy yourself easily, then perhaps you could argue that copying and disposing of people could become an acceptable thing so long as the overall personality was not lost.

Anyway,

Towards the end there are two Arnolds, infiltrating the villain's base to rescue his family, the question of which would actually get to live with the family, which was the real Arnie, is not yet resolved.

My ending:
The two Arnolds get separated, and Arnold A sees Arnold B the other get gruesomely, obviously killed. Other than this things progress rather like in the first movie: The villain turns up, does some moustache twiddling type speech, gets killed in typical Arnold fashion. Arnold finds and rescues his family, and they escape together with a big pile of cash to set up a new life somewhere far away. For some reason they must keep quiet though, eg because Arnold might a clone and have no legal rights.

THEN.. just as you think the credits are about to roll, we rewind to where Arnold B apparently got separated and was killed. There was a switcheroo! He didnt get killed at all, but he thinks he sees Arnold A get killed. Both A and B were seeing the same Arnold C from an angle where they could not spot each other.

Just as before, Arnold B also meets the villain, who again gives a villainous speech and gets killed, in a different way. Then Arnold B also rescues his 'family', from a different room, and they also escape with a big pile of cash to set up a new life somewhere.

The villain (who has now been killed twice) emerges from hiding and watches with a smile as the two families escape in different directions.

A henchman appears and says something like "Would have been a hell of a lot simpler to just kill them."

The villain replies: "No, Im not a murderer." and then in explanation. "Three hours and 45 minutes ago, our mistake became six days old."
 
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The Fantastic Four

Yes, all is well. Reed Richards and Sue Storm marry. And have children (triplets).

To discover with horror that their superpowers have been inherited by their children. All of them. What they didn't expect, which becomes a major problem for the next 18 years are those children and their powers. What they didn't expect was what they got: invisible rubber children.
 
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Star War: The Phantom Menace

Sci-Fi ending that should have been? Well, the entire dang movie shouldn't have "been" to begin with. But, if it must exist then I suggest the ending be changed.

The final ceremony is completed with the entire assembly turning on Jar Jar and stringing him up by his testicles, dousing him in kerosene and lighting him on fire.. quickly followed by the extermination of the entire Gungan race by rampaging Ewoks hyped up on crystal meth, LSD and viagra... who spontaneously explode in the very last frame of the movie after committing the extermination of the final Gungan by the mysterious ritual known as "Ooogah Boogah."
 
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Hmm..

Star Wars: The Phantom Menace

Actually Jah Jah didnt bother me that much. Im used to blanking out annoying characters. The blood test for the force.. that annoyed me.

However I think the critical flaw with the first movie was that it simply should not have been a kiddy movie. The series had to start a lot darker to make sense. I dont mean violent, preventing it being suitable for children. The darkness could have been implied.

One key point I would of changed is to have shot whoever scripted that final fighter sequence where the young anikin bumbled his way though, all played for laughs. Totally awful, especially as the image you go away with.

The fight should have been scary, Anikin should have been scared, and the lucky shot that destroyed that base should have happened at the instant that his fear was greatest, and he replaced his fear with rage, and rage gave him the skill to do it. Star Wars 101 really. That pretty much would have forshadowed what the entire prequel series was meant to be about.
 
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The Matrix

The AI discovers Neo is "teh 11!11!!11Eleven!!1zogmz!" and waits for him to jack back into the system... then nukes the city he is in.

Problem solved, Neo dies in real life, etc, etc..
 
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The last Star Wars movie, movie III, was absolutely garbage. If by ending you meant the whole damn movie, then yes, i'd completely change it. Maybe make it so Anakin doesn't just willingly go to the dark side on some stupid empty promise without questioning it.

Anakin: My wife is sick and i need to find a way to save her.

Senator Palpatine: Well i'm actually part of the dark side, and if you join the dark side you'll be able to save her.

Anakin: Done.

What the hell is that?
 
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brandbll":v778q2dx said:
...What the hell is that?

It's the whole "sell your soul to the Devil" theme. I actually didn't mind that very much. Although, I don't think they played it up enough.

I agree that the emphasis on him wanting to save Princess Ommagoodlalahahgoobla was a bit too much. It's obvious from the start that Anakin is a bit more of a maverick than the stuffy, overblown, self-absorbed Jedi are..

Heck, if I was him I'd probably have to dump the Jedi altogether as well. They're a bunch of self-important gurus, whining about "evil" and such.. pfft.

Truthfully, they should have let him kill her off. There was no need for her character at all at that point. Of course, then we wouldn't of had Luke and Leia though. To me THAT was the whole twist I didn't like. It would have been much more fitting for Anakin to have killed her outright and then blamed his rage on the stuff-shirted Jedi. They could have already had their children at that point. But, then his character would probably not have been as appealing to the younger crowd.
 
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kelvinzero":1ttwvsls said:
However I think the critical flaw with the first movie was that it simply should not have been a kiddy movie. The series had to start a lot darker to make sense. I dont mean violent, preventing it being suitable for children. The darkness could have been implied.

Part of the trouble there is that a lot of filmmakers forget that kids can *handle* dark movies. They don't have to be all fru-fru silliness and fairies and sugerplum gumdrops.

I can certainly tolerate Disney adjusting the endings of "The Little Mermaid" and "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" -- the original endings are pretty dismal. But, and here's the important part, kids liked the original "Little Mermaid". One of my favorite books as a child was "The Red Shoes", another Hans Christian Andersen book which actually has a worse ending. Kids actually like that kind of stuff, just as much as adults do. They don't need to be protected from it.

As Terry Pratchett put it in Hogfather:
But it was much earlier even than that when most people forgot that the very oldest stories are, sooner or later, about blood. Later on they took the blood out to make the stories more acceptable to children, or at least to the people who had to read them to children rather than the children themselves (who, on the whole, are quite keen on blood provided it's being shed by the deserving*), and then wondered where the stories went.

* That is to say, those who deserve to shed blood. Or possibly not. You never quite know with some kids.


G. K Chesterton had this to say: Fairy Tales are more than true; not because they tell us that dragons exist, but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten.

Or as Steven Moffatt (the new producer of Doctor Who, and writer of such wonderfully dark Dr Who stories as "Silence in the Library" and "Blink") put it: Fairy tales are how we tell our children that the world is a scary place and there are people who might want to eat them. I mean, Doctor Who can be dark and scary.

And kids love that. They tell each other ghost stories. Dark is *exciting*. And they learn through the stories. All stories are educational. Not just the ones where Abby Aardvark looks for things that start with the letter A, or Petrucia Plum learns how having three apples and getting four more apples means she now has seven apples. Those things are nice, but the really important lessons they get from stories are things like how to be brave, the difference between right and wrong, what death means, the importance of friendship, and how to deal with monsters. For the most part, they're not going to learn that from Dora the Explorer or even Sesame Street. Those are great shows, and they teach kids a lot, but they need *dark* shows to learn the more serious lessons of life, most notably that it isn't always easy and it isn't always friendly.

One of my favorite movies growing up was "The Dark Crystal". It's aimed at children, but is definitely dark. It features slavery (a very sinister kind, where the slaves' very will has been removed), genocide, killing of parents, a brutal raid on a peaceful village, several deaths, exceedingly difficult choices, life-or-death struggles..... It's a good story. Like Chesterton said, it teaches not only that monsters exist but that they can be beaten. And *should* be beaten. They're not very good monsters if they aren't dark.

Contrast Maleficent in "Sleeping Beauty" with Jafar in "Alladin". Jafar was basically just a power-hungry jerk, a sniveling snake who bamboozled the rather dotty old Caliph so he could ultimately seize power. Maleficent, by contrast, was *evil*, fixated on killing a young child for no more reason than because she was an evil fairy and that's what evil fairies do (though ostensibly it was out of spite for not being invited to the baby's party). The best parts of "Sleeping Beauty" were the dark parts. Oh, the silly parts were fun, like the disastrous attempts by the three good fairies to set up a birthday party without resorting to magic. But it was the dark parts that sold the story. Aurora, entranced, following the glowing orb up the hidden staircase, the fairies desperately trying to catch up to her and stop her, and ultimately failing to get there before she touched the spindle and fell into a deep sleep. That's where the movie really hits its stride.
 
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ALP... I am so totally with you regarding Jar Jar. Stringing him up by his testicles would be too kind, in my humble opinion. Folks seem to forget that it was Jar Jar's simple incompetence and gullibility that opened the door for the emperor to squash the democracy. So, string 'im up!

It's been awhile since I've been online here with any regularity. Have they given you da powa yet?

Best regards,

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Star Trek (last year's movie, with the new cast replicating TOS)

Anything that doesn't involve the destruction of Vulcan. That was simply too much to bear, even in an alternative time line.

The movie takes post modernism to an absurd (pun intended) extreme, devolving finally into the worst form of we-have-no-anchors-and-consequently-any-awful-thing-is-possible horse hockey. Such an extreme that it brought out the long-repressed, angry southern boy in me.

Anyone who knows me well will confirm that I am a gentle sort who seldom expresses anger. But during the final credits of this terrible movie, I sat there and seethed, feeling as though I wanted to chase down the producers wherever they might be and kick their butts to Vulcan and back.

Then my adrenalin levels dropped a bit and the impulse passed. Thankfully...
 
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a_lost_packet_":36zdboz9 said:
brandbll":36zdboz9 said:
...What the hell is that?

It's the whole "sell your soul to the Devil" theme. I actually didn't mind that very much. Although, I don't think they played it up enough.

I agree that the emphasis on him wanting to save Princess Ommagoodlalahahgoobla was a bit too much. It's obvious from the start that Anakin is a bit more of a maverick than the stuffy, overblown, self-absorbed Jedi are..

Heck, if I was him I'd probably have to dump the Jedi altogether as well. They're a bunch of self-important gurus, whining about "evil" and such.. pfft.

Truthfully, they should have let him kill her off. There was no need for her character at all at that point. Of course, then we wouldn't of had Luke and Leia though. To me THAT was the whole twist I didn't like. It would have been much more fitting for Anakin to have killed her outright and then blamed his rage on the stuff-shirted Jedi. They could have already had their children at that point. But, then his character would probably not have been as appealing to the younger crowd.

The thing was he was this all powerful jedi, and yet some guy who for all he knows has no powers at all just simply makes some empty promise, and Anakin drops everything he's doing and joins the dark side; no questions asked. Even if you're suppose to be a maverick, you'd at least question it a little.

Oh and as to the first Star Wars in the new series, they should have changed that ending completely. Should have never killed off Darth Maul. They should have made him some sort of rival that amde it through all three movies. Instead we got that lame old man Count Dookoo or however you spell his stupid name.
 
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