Secrets On The Moon. (Disclosure)

AGENT_007 · Apr 7, 2008

There is a civilization of human beings who live on the Moon. This is one of the biggest and best kept secrets on earth. The nearside of the Moon, which is the side that faces earth, appears to be a desolate and unoccupied. The farside of the moon, which also has a breathable atmosphere also has lakes, rivers, forests, snow-capped mountains and life as we know it here on earth. Most of mankinds misconceptions about the moon have been carefully and systematically fed to us over thousands of years. People generally believe that the moon has one sixth the gravity of the earth because they are told that the density of the moon is 3.3 gr/cm3 and that the earth's gravity is 5.5 gr/cm3. And with those densities and the radius of the moon and the earth, the calculation is made: Fg=G x m1m2/r2 The assumption that the density of the moon is 3.3 gr/cm3 is based on: 1. Earth density is 5.5 gr/cm3 and the gravity of the moon is one sixth that of earth. 2. Observations of asteroids and the Earth's polar axis 3. Angular momentum 4. Soil samples from the moon 5. Keplers Third Law 6. Shockwave measurement In fact, we have no idea what the density of the moon is and we are just assuming that the density is 3.3 gr/cm3 because that is the only explanation apparent to us at this time. It seems to make sense. Just as we have no idea what the density of the earth is. We make educated guesses of 5.5 gr/cm3 and we say "Well it has to be 5.5 gr/cm3 because the moon is 3.3 gr/cm3 and the moons gravity is one sixth that of earth so there is no other option. Oh yes, and the Cavendish experiment with 2 solid metal spheres. This experiment determined the gravitational constant in Newton's gravitational equation which was then used to determine the mass of the Earth. And of course they hypothesize and inner and outer iron core of Earth to make in density what they lack in actual evidence. So essentially we don't really know what earth's density is. There are 5 main theories for the existence of the moon in orbit around the earth and they are: 1 - Capture from an independent orbit. 2 - Formation as a double planet. 3 - Fission from a rapidly rotating Earth. 4 - disintegration of incoming planetesimals. 5 - Earth impact by a Mars sized planetesimal. There is another theory that is not generally accepted but its occurrence is far more likely and that is that our moon was placed in orbit around our earth by a civilization very far advanced from our own. Our moon is in rotational lock around our earth. This means that only one face or one hemisphere of the moon, what we call the "nearside", ever faces earth. A contemporary and completely fallacious and bogus explanation by mainstream science for 'rotational lock' is a fantasy force called 'tidal locking', which has forced the moon, whatever its origin, into this 'rotational lock'. "Tidal Locking" was only proposed a few years ago to explain the moons rotational lock. In fact, in my opinion, tidal locking has no scientific validity and those who defend it are only making up a theory to account for the unexplainable. Which is what mainstream science is all about anyway. The scientific community claims that most all of the moons and satellites of the planets in the solar system are 'tidally locked' with their mother planets. In my opinion this is not a fact. One of the earliest memories of man is that there was a time, many thousands of years ago, when there was no moon in the sky. Immanuel Velikovsky wrote that Democritus and Anaxagoras taught that there was a time when the earth was without a moon. Aristotle wrote that Arcadia in Greece, before being inhabited by the Hellenes, had a population of Pelasgians, and that these aborigines occupied the land already there 'before there was a Moon in the sky above the earth'; for this reason, they were called Proselenes. Apollonius Rhodius mentioned the time “when not all the orbs were yet in the heavens, before the Danai and Deukalion races came into existence, and only the Arcadians lived, of whom it is said that they dwelt on the mountains and fed on acorns, before there was a moon.” So there are several ideas of how the moon came into existence; mine is that it a large space ship, towed from solar system to solar system with its prime mission to help jump start lesser advanced civilizations, spending many thousands and thousands of years in secret manipulations and stimulations, until that lesser civilization can continue on their own, then moving to another solar system. Whatever you decide the moon really is or where it came from or how it got here and placed itself into a rotationally locked orbit there are many strange things about our moon which are not easily explained. One is that its size, when viewed from earth is identical to the apparent size of the sun. Isaac Asimov says, "There is no astronomical reason why the moon and the sun should fit so well. It is the sheerest of coincidences, and only the Earth among all planets is blessed in this fashion." Moon rocks were dated at 5.3 billion years old approximately 700 million years older than the earth. The moons composition should conform to normal planetary formation with heavier elements in the core and lighter elements at the surface. On the moon however, elements like titanium are found at the surface in great quantity. Another oddity is that women of childbearing age menstruate once every complete cycle of the moon (27.3 days). Many scientists and astronomers in history have proposed and or believed that the moon has a breathable atmosphere and that there is a civilization, possibly of human-like beings that live on the farside. In the 1950's there were a number of men, derogatorily referred to as "contactees" that claimed to have been taken to the moon in flying saucers. They were shown magnificent cities with enormous buildings, many strange structures and constructs; rivers, lakes, meadows, forests along with fantastic scenery, much of it similar to earth. Two of these 'contactees' were George Adamski and Howard Menger, who, unbeknownst to the general public both became secret advisors to the Pentagon. Howard Menger claimed to have ridden on a train that was "a strange vehicle that had no wheels, rested in suspension about a foot above a cooper highway which ribboned through the terrain and disappeared from view." He went on: "We boarded the train and soon were gliding noiselessly above the highway. As we traveled we could see all around and above us." Howard went on to describe the terrain. "Some of the terrain, in one section of the moon near the so-called "dark-side" reminded me of Flagstaff, Arizona while other desert sections made me think of Nevada. Huge cliffs and mountains made our own look like ant hills. One particular desert locale brought to mind "The Valley of Fire" in Nevada. There we stopped long enough for your guide to open the door and permit us to stick our heads out for a brief moment, which is all one could take, for it was terrible hot outside-like a blast furnace. I was certain that no one cold have lived outside very long and was glad he had shut the door." At the end of his 4 day tour of the moon Menger said he was wined and dined by his hosts, along with many others from Earth who had similarly taken the tour. Whatever the truth there is certainly photographic evidence by Russian Zond, Lunar Orbiter and Apollo mission photos that clearly show buildings, mining operations and mining equipment, factories, domes, cranes and in one case, in the crater Aristarchus, we can see what appears to be a huge, 24 miles diameter, hexagonal, dome shaped structure, emitting or surrounded by a strange blue glow. <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/5/6/f5c8b4e4-738a-484a-a624-688e94dbc983.Medium.png" alt="" />This blue glow has been described by one nuclear physicist as the Cherenkov Effect which is the result of radiation coming in contact with molecules of air. Modern science has claimed that the moon is an airless, that although there is an atmosphere, it is so minute it is virtually a vacuum. They back up this claim with the formula that the moon has only one sixth the gravity of earth and further claim that no breathable atmosphere could be held intact with that small amount of gravity. They also point to the films of the Apollo astronauts hopping and skipping across the lunar landscape in apparent one sixth gravity. If one points out that these hops and skips are barely more than 12 inches high, 18 inches at the most they tell you that the astronauts were wearing very heavy spacesuits and backpacks and that it was dangerous to take advantage of the minimum gravity to jump any higher. If a breathable atmosphere is suggested mainstream science counters that there is no occultation of a star passing behind the moon, thereby proving, they say, that there is no atmosphere. If you propose that the atmosphere could be very, very clean with no dust or other particles and that the height of the atmosphere might not be thick enough to actually see an occultation they dismiss it with: "What about all the scientific data from all the moon probes and Apollo astronauts?" And therein lays the question of whether or not there is more than one sixth gravity and or a breathable atmosphere on the moon: who is correct? The contactees who say there is a civilization on the moon, with some gravity and a breathable atmosphere or mainstream science with all of their billions of dollars of scientific probes and the testimony of the Apollo astronauts, who, it is claimed, were actually there? One of those astronauts, Buzz Aldrin had this to say about what it felt like to be on the moon: "For Christ's sake. I don't know. I just don't know. I have been frustrated since the day I left the Moon by that question." Edgar Mitchell had this to say: "Somehow I couldn't resurrect the feelings I had while there, although my thoughts and action were easily summoned." And Neil Armstrong has had little to say about being the first man on the moon. At the 25th Anniversary of the Apollo 11 landing on the moon he commented: " (there are) breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of truth's protective layers. There are places to go beyond belief." Another puzzle in the mystery of the Moon is the so-called "neutral point". The neutral point is that point in space, between the earth and the moon where the pull of the earth's gravity is exactly equal to the gravity of the earth is equal pull of the moon's gravity, hence 'neutral point'. Mainstream science, up until a few years ago maintained that the neutral point was 24,000 miles from the moon and that, according to the Bullialdus/Newton law of inverse square which states: "Any physical quantity or strength is inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them, specifically, the gravitational attraction between two massive objects, in additional to being directly proportional to the product of their masses, is inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them." The gravity on the moon would be one sixth that of earths. But there are a few problems with that 24,000 miles figure. "At a point 43,495 miles from the Moon, lunar gravity exerted a force equal to the gravity of the Earth, then some 200,000 miles distant." - Wernher von Braun (Time Magazine, July 25, 1969.) This is Eugene Cernan's book "The Last Man On The Moon" written with Don Davis. Copyright 1999 Eugene Cernan and Don Davis. St. Martin's Griffin, New York. ISBN 0-312-19906-6 (hc) ISBN 0-312-26351-1 (pbk) LOCC TL789.8.U6A52435 1999 629.45"0092-dc21{b}: (Inbound to the Moon) "It was Saturday December 9 and we were in the moons firm hold only about 38,000 miles out and drawing closer by the moment." This is Michael Collins' book, "Carrying the Fire An Astronaut's Journeys" Copyright 1974 by Michael Collins. Farrar, Straus and Giroux, New York LOCCC TL789.85.C64A33 629.4'092'4 74-7211: (Outbound from the Moon) "Houston reports the instant at which we leave the lunar sphere of influence. This means that despite the fact we are only 34,000 nautical miles (39,000 statue miles) from the moon and still 174,000 miles from earth, the earth's pull has become dominant, and the mathematical equations now recognize that fact." Reginald Turnhill “The Moonlandings” Copyright Reginald Turnhill 2003. Cambridge University Press ISBN 0521815959. (Inbound to the Moon)"Soon after that a new stage in manned spaceflight was reached. Like a ball thrown upwards, the spacecraft had been gradually slowing down, until its velocity was 2724 mph and its position was 202,825 miles from Earth, and 38,900 miles from the Moon. For the first time, men had reached a point where the pull of Earth’s gravity was less than that of another body. Now the pull of lunar gravity was greater and the craft’s speed began to increase again as it fell towards the moon." Reginald Turnhill “The Moonlandings” Copyright Reginald Turnhill 2003. No matter how many flip flopping, flap jacking Earth Moon sun 'spheres of influence' paradigm shifting 'non-rotating (or rotating) frames of reference' you throw into the mix the fact is at some point the Apollo spacecraft left the dominant pull of earths gravity and was in the dominant pull of the moon's gravity or left the dominant pull of the moon's gravity and was in the dominant pull of the earth's gravity. That point is the neutral point and that point is approximately 43,495 miles. And that point using the Bullialdus/Newton law of inverse square to calculate the 'relative' pull of the earth to the relative pull of the moon is, using earth as '1' is .64 for the moon. That means that the relative gravity on the moon is .64 of earth's gravity. That is approximately 2/3 of earth's gravity. Now you can talk, sing, dance, play pinochle, play charades, stand on your head, spout nonsense like: Quote: <table border="0" cellspacing="1" width="90%" class="bordercolor" bgcolor="#000000"><tbody><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" width="100%" class="quote"><tbody><tr><td width="100%">The 'sphere of influence' concept was computationally most practical. That's the second approach. And in real terms, it's the only 'authentic' definition, as you can show by calculating the Earth-SUN 'neutral point' both ways, and see that the 'classic' (i.e., pre-Space-Age) method gives a neutral point CLOSER to Earth than the moon's orbit -- counter-intuitive and contrary to several billion years of loyal lunar earth-orbiting. Jim Oberg

AGENT_007 · Apr 7, 2008

This is a Lunar Orbiter photo of Tsiolkovsky with the EMV airbrushed to look like an island. I have 4 or 5 different versions of Tsiolkovsky that NASA has issued. <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/5/13/151d8ec3-9120-4d08-9d87-1d63281fb137.Medium.png" alt="" />Here is what Tsiolkovsky really looks like. As you can see this photo of Tsiolkovsky with the EMV is from a thumbnail. Somebody at NASA was too lazy to enlarge the thumbnail, airbrush it, then reduce it back into a thumbnail. They probably figured no one would notice. <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/13/6/cd1aac40-7df6-407e-b612-25951fbbc397.Medium.jpg" alt="" />For more information on how the EMV placed the moon in orbit please read: "The Ringmakers of Saturn" by Norman Begrun (Copyright Norman R. Bergrun 1986) Library of Congress Catalogue Card Number 86-81530, ISBN 0 946279 33 3. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

AGENT_007 · Apr 7, 2008

During the 21 days of debriefing that Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins went through at the Lunar Receving Laboratory in Houston there were 12 men in there with them to help them recall the 'truth'. Rather than ask them to 'lie' about what they saw they phrased it this way: "You saw nothing unusual on the Moon and that is the truth". "The daytime sky on the Moon is black and that is the truth." "You saw no cities on the Moon and that is the truth." "The gravity on the moon is one sixth that of Earth and that is the truth." So when Neil talked about uncovering the layers of 'truth' he is talking about the layers of truth that NASA puts in place. Thats exactly what NASA wants. They want you to see very little, if any, differences in the photos and they went to a lot of trouble to make it that way. Here are a few versions that NASA has released in various publications. You have to be slightly deranged to see the EMV so don't worry if you don't see it. Here a photo of the moon from Zond 3. I would classify this photo as one of the 5 most revealing photos of the farside (made public) ever taken of the moon. The object in the lower left hand corner of the photo is part of the ship.This photo was more than 755kb so can be viewed here:http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6155/zond3bcirclesxq8.pngIf you look at the picture in the above link at the extreme lower right hand side of the Zond 3 photo, on the Moon's horizon you can see the structure that is enlarged in the photo below. Structure is not really the right word because whatever this thing is, it's massive. About 20 miles in length and about 12 to 14 miles high, you can see three enormous cylinders or tanks on the left. They are sitrting up on a step or bench. On the right you can see an enormous archway. There are many other structures, or as the Apollo astronauts used to call them, 'constructs' in this photo. <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/1/c6f4e6ea-ff28-44ec-9106-1baea716168e.Medium.png" alt="" /> From "Moongate: Supressed Findings of the U.S. Space Program The NASA-Military Cover-Up" by William L. Brian II Copyright 1982 "The Moon's lower gravity, 64% of Earths', means that its atmosphere is deeper because the gases are compressed to a lesser extent that Earths' atmosphere. The depth of an atmosphere in inversely proportional to the magnitude of the gravitational field. This follows from the gas law involving pressure and volume which states that the volume of a confined gas in inversely proportional to the pressure applied to it. In other words if the pressure is doubled the volume becomes half as great. The Moons atmosphere is not likely to experience high winds and other weather conditions to the extent that is common on earth because of the long days and nights, and the absence of large bodies of water on the surface of the nearside. Therefore the atmosphere on the Moon is probably much cleaner than the Earth's and light diffusion and scattering effects would be minimal. Occultation of stars would not be as pronounced as expected and the interpretation of the findings would be that the Moon has an extremely thin atmosphere. The atmospheric density could still be as great or greater than Earth's without being as visible." Whatever the density, the densest level of an atmosphere is its lowest. So if there was a breathable atmosphere on the moon, the densest parts of that atmosphere would be on the floor of the craters. Both Adamski and Menger mentioned that the inhabitants on the moon live in a temperate zone just over the horizon visible to earth. Below is a photo taken by Apollo 17 (1522) and shows a portion of the farside of the moon which is on the right and to the right of the green longitudinal line. <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/0/4/f094f985-7696-4117-940a-fcc84a2f7f39.Medium.png" alt="" />The blue circles represent possible deep craters where the densest air would be and where people could live and work. The white area just above Maxwell (extreme northeast) is actually a large city and was crudely whited out by NASA artists in the days before digital imaging and the automatic elimination of what NASA calls "offensive material" or that material which may betray the actual nature of the moon became automatic. George Adamski said that looking a telescope from above the moon the many of the craters turned out to be large valleys surrounded by mountains. This kind of illusion would not be too hard to perpetrate for someone who could tow the moon from a different solar system. Adamski said he saw vegetation, snow-covered mountains with heavy timber on the lower slopes and mountain lakes and rivers which emptied into a large body of water. He saw a number of communities in the valleys and on mountain slopes as well as a fair-sized city. Adamski says he was told that large hangars are located near the cities for convenience in landing with supplies which are brought in to exchange for certain moon minerals.. Adamski said that visitors to the moon had to go through a depressurization process to acclimatize them to the atmosphere because of the relatively lower air pressure. This process is similar to the acclimatization necessary when climbing mountains over 15,000 feet. It has been said that the actual pressure altitude of the habitable craters of the moon are equivalent to 18,000 feet pressure altitude here on earth. Time to wake up!Now if I disclosed anymore than this with classified documents/pictures that I do have, I would have to kill ya!<img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif" border="0" alt="Laughing" title="Laughing" />  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

Saiph · Apr 7, 2008

First, the obvious question.  Is this your original material, or from a site?  If it's from a site, you need to supply the reference. Second...I'll address your points, but I really don't have time at this moment.  First though, I'll point out that we have had satellites orbit the moon, which provide a classic and direct test of it's mass.We also have measurements of it's perturbations of earth's orbit, the earth-moon barrycenter (center of mass/rotation) and the tides.  All produce very direct indications of the moon's mass.   If you contest these derivations, you contest the very fundamentals of kinematics.So your claims as to how we came to the density figures for the earth, and the moon are...well, wrong.   They aren't arbitrary in the least (as you make them sound). Also, tidal locking as a concept has been around for...well, a very, very long time.  It's also not unique to the moon.  Mercury is in a near tidal lock relationship with the sun (it's actually in a more intriguing 2:3 resonance).  Many other moons in the solar system are also tidally locked.  More later.  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> --------------------SaiphMOD@gmail.com -------------------"This is my Timey Wimey Detector. Goes "bing" when there's stuff. It also fries eggs at 30 paces, wether you want it to or not actually. I've learned to stay away from hens: It's not pretty when they blow" -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink" </div>

origin · Apr 8, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>There are 5 main theories for the existence of the moon in orbit around the earth and they are:1 - Capture from an independent orbit.2 - Formation as a double planet.3 - Fission from a rapidly rotating Earth.4 - disintegration of incoming planetesimals.5 - Earth impact by a Mars sized planetesimal.There is another theory that is not generally accepted but its occurrence is far more likely and that is that our moon was placed in orbit around our earth by a civilization very far advanced from our own.. Posted by AGENT_007</DIV>I have an observation and a question:Observation.  This is probably the most bizarre bastardization of Occam,s Razor I have ever seen.Question.  Have you ever been diagnosed with a Bipolar disorder or other condition?  If not I highly recommend that you discuss your threory with your family physician.  If you have been diagnosed with bipolar or other condition I recommend that you take your medication.Good luck! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

AGENT_007 · Apr 8, 2008

"  First though, I'll point out that we have had satellites orbit the moon, which provide a classic and direct test of it's mass. We also have measurements of it's perturbations of earth's orbit, the earth-moon barrycenter (center of mass/rotation) and the tides.  All produce very direct indications of the moon's mass.   If you contest these derivations, you contest the very fundamentals of kinematics.So your claims as to how we came to the density figures for the earth, and the moon are...well, wrong.   They aren't arbitrary in the least (as you make them sound). Also, tidal locking as a concept has been around for...well, a very, very long time.  It's also not unique to the moon.  Mercury is in a near tidal lock relationship with the sun (it's actually in a more intriguing 2:3 resonance).  Many other moons in the solar system are also tidally locked."Don't take it in a hard way but this is the truth!Everything you think you know or have been taught is false.Everything NASA has put out and claimed is a cover up and a lie. Half/truths!This could be a neverending debate because you will come back with data that you have been provided from either NASA or a supposed factual book or statement which are all lies or half/truths!The reason for this post was to hint the truth of what is really there but many will discredit the above and not accept it. I'm not interested in you trying to prove something to me that I already know to be false, I know without a shadow of a doubt about the existence of cities and humans living on the moon. My source is solid as a rock! I have posted what I have posted for the benefit of those out there who may consider this truth of what's been hidden from our faces for thousands of years!The moon is only a begining of what you think you know about our real solar system which is a lie.     <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

Saiph · Apr 8, 2008

First, I'd like to say that I'm willing to discuss this with you, give and take, question and answer that sorta thing.  But, if you just dismiss my views immediately, this isn't going to go very far before I throw in the towel.  Basically, I'll hear you out, if you hear me out.  If I don't convince you in the end, well, no big deal. I could do these measurements myself you know.  Many have been around for over two hundred years.Also, a good number of your claims are patently untrue based on fundamental scientific principles. Over the next couple of days I'll explain how the moons mass, gravity, etc all fit together.  Without requiring aliens. Origin:  Your post isn't constructive in the least.  I'd take another look and reword it if I were you.  Especially the bi-polar comments.  While agent is, IMO, quite misguided, or in error, that's no reason to be so...confrontational.  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> --------------------SaiphMOD@gmail.com -------------------"This is my Timey Wimey Detector. Goes "bing" when there's stuff. It also fries eggs at 30 paces, wether you want it to or not actually. I've learned to stay away from hens: It's not pretty when they blow" -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink" </div>

AGENT_007 · Apr 8, 2008

"Question.  Have you ever been diagnosed with a Bipolar disorder or other condition?  If not I highly recommend that you discuss your threory with your family physician.  If you have been diagnosed with bipolar or other condition I recommend that you take your medication."You hold the job you have because you think that way. Don't worry you were meant for it, our government has done a great job on keeping you on the blind side of the moon.There's no point in me telling you anything of who I am or what I do because it would probably blow you away to find out who I really am and what I really do. All I will say is what I have written above is what I have written and true. Take it or leave it!p.s. There's no doubt in my mind some on here are aware of the facts either working for NASA or top secret projects so may work at really discrediting me in this thread. If it vanishes I won't be surprised. They have been covering up and airbrushing things for years. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

AGENT_007 · Apr 8, 2008

"Basically, I'll hear you out, if you hear me out.  If I don't convince you in the end, well, no big deal. "You won't convince me about the moon because I've been there!But I will listen to what you have to say and answer any questions you may have! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

et_earth · Apr 8, 2008

Replying to Saiph:I think this says it and I ask you why bother?The reason for this post was to hint the truth of what is really there but many will discredit the above and not accept it. I'm not interested in you trying to prove something to me that I already know to be false, I know without a shadow of a doubt about the existence of cities and humans living on the moon. My source is solid as a rock!  Posted by AGENT_007 <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

et_earth · Apr 8, 2008

Replying to 007:You won't convince me about the moon because I've been there!Now you’re an astronaut, no wonder you have that “can’t talk about it attitude“ and its all hush, hush, Top Secret and the like.  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

AGENT_007 · Apr 8, 2008

"I think this says it and I ask you why bother?"Well said ET your right you can't convince me that black is white.But I expect 99.999% of you to not realize what is right in front of your nose!It's ok you take what you want out of this post and if you disbelieve than at least subconsciously you have heard the data and someday you will hear it again and recognize it.Oh and by the way the earth is round, please don't stone me now for telling you that!<img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif" border="0" alt="Laughing" title="Laughing" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

AGENT_007 · Apr 8, 2008

"Now you’re an astronaut, no wonder you have that “can’t talk about it attitude“ and its all hush, hush, Top Secret and the like."You amaze me ET, your so far advanced and ahead of everything.Astronauts are the only one's who could ever possibly make it to the moon right? You've done your homework well.The space shuttle is the only possible way to the moon. Good job A+++Here are a few pictures of the biggest lies you've ever known.<img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/4/3/f42d0153-41c1-42c2-8320-72020ba45c60.Medium.jpg" alt="" /> <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/4/13/e440a38d-2951-4ae2-bd7c-edaee7a4ae39.Medium.jpg" alt="" /> <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/3/13/632460d8-4630-46d9-8d0f-d6bf4c552eff.Medium.jpg" alt="" /> Just look at how advanced we are!<img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-surprised.gif" border="0" alt="Surprised" title="Surprised" />Nasa serves it's purpose well!<img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-wink.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" />    <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

AGENT_007 · Apr 8, 2008

Which is easier to swallow?That the moon has cities and humans living there or that the earth is hollow?(Both are true)Eventually people will wake up to the truth about this planet and what their life has really been all about but it's understandably difficult for most to accept that just about everything they have ever learned and thought to be true was a lie.I suggest you reading Admiral Byrd's last words in his diary about what he knows to be true, I am not the only witness and one aware of the truth. <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/5/13/053683f0-04be-450f-ad9e-6b507e6bd84f.Medium.jpg" alt="" />Admiral Byrd, United States Navy, Dec 24 1956. " I must write this diary in secrecy and obscurity. It concerns my Arctic flight of the nineteenth day of February in the year of Nineteen and Forty Seven. There comes a time when the rationality of men must fade into insignificance and one must accept the inevitability of the Truth! I am not at liberty to disclose the following documentation at this writing ...perhaps it shall never see the light of public scrutiny, but I must do my duty and record here for all to read one day. In a world of greed and exploitation of certain of mankind can no longer suppress that which is truth."To read the full story of Admiral Byrd and learn what he discovered click here: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tierra_hueca/esp_tierra_hueca_2d.htmMarch 11, 1947. I have just attended a staff meeting at the Pentagon. I have stated fully my discovery and the message from the Master. All is duly recorded. The President has been advised. I am now detained for several hours (six hours, thirty- nine minutes, to be exact.) I am interviewed intently by Top Security Forces and a medical team. It was an ordeal!!!! I am placed under strict control via the national security provisions of this United States of America. I am ORDERED TO REMAIN SILENT IN REGARD TO ALL THAT I HAVE LEARNED, ON THE BEHALF OF HUMANITY1111 Incredible! I am reminded that I am a military man and I must obey orders.   <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

nec208 · Apr 8, 2008

There is a civilization of human beings who live on the Moon. This is one of the biggest and best kept secrets on earth. The nearside of the Moon, which is the side that faces earth, appears to be a desolate and unoccupied. The farside of the moon, which also has a breathable atmosphere also has lakes, rivers, forests, snow-capped mountains and life as we know it here on earth.--------------------------------------------------------------------Call ART BELL or coast to coast AM!! First , I will spend more time hearing some whistler blower in NASA the Army or CIA that can prove the claim of UFO's or may be ET's have a underground base on the moon or mars so on that is more possible.But this claim is not even remotely possible!! The UFO thing hold more water , if you can prove the UFO's ET's craft , and it is not a hoax,star,plane,blimp,top army plane,asteroid,shooting star so on.And the only reason the UFO hold water is the number of claims and whistler blowers from the army,cops,doctors,generals,air pilots and the roswell crash and crop circles.But still it needs to be proven .And any whistler blowers must prove it.I'm sorry but 98% of the people on coast to coast AM or Art bell is just that .Only 2% if they can come with prove , I will hear out.To than it is not remotely possible. And talk radio at your finest entertainment!!One thing here , how can any moon have a atmosphere only on one side?Ether a moon or planet has a atmosphere to support life or not !! How can it be only 50%Come here with a better story and may be more will hear you out.Prove UFO's are not planes,air balloons,top army planes, star,planet,shooting star,blimp or hoax so on.Dam those ET's are so shy , come and land or fly over a football game and hover and do a nice light show , like coast encounter movie and shoot of like a star.But than the conspiracy guys say they are using humans has slaves , and don't want us to know or they look at use has rats , do to are inferior technology and just don't want to get involved.And the conspiracy guys her say the ET's are studying humans or manipulating the DNA come on.<img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-surprised.gif" border="0" alt="Surprised" title="Surprised" /> If they so advance for interstellar travel and faster than speed of light , but so primitive when comes to studying humans it take years and years or manipulating are DNA take years and years .Here is other thing,  they are so advance for interstellar travel but crash in roswell !! May be the army was shootimg them down and they never found a race of people in space that shoot at them.But at leat it will not happen again the UFO is modified to be immune to earth weapons , has they so advance for interstellar travel .That is about the only scenario to that claim.Dam I should get into conspiracy more or hear coast to coast AM more.     <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

Saiph · Apr 8, 2008

Simple, while I may not convince him, I will be presenting my case to anybody who reads his material.  I.e. I do it for them, not him specifically. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> --------------------SaiphMOD@gmail.com -------------------"This is my Timey Wimey Detector. Goes "bing" when there's stuff. It also fries eggs at 30 paces, wether you want it to or not actually. I've learned to stay away from hens: It's not pretty when they blow" -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink" </div>

AGENT_007 · Apr 8, 2008

Nec208, Clearly you are lost like 99.999% of the rest of everyone.No need to comment on your remarks, you are left in the blind!Now if you feel so sure that I am wrong about all of this and it's such an easy task for you to debunk me well then go ahead and attempt to disprove what I have written and include whatever evidence you feel you may have and I will show you that what you thought was evidence is really a bunch of pixie dust that you were taught was indeed fact! Anyone who has ever stepped on the moon knows and is a witness to some of the things I have mentioned including every astronaut that has ever been there but you of course could never believe that! You might want to re-read the above post and think about it a little more!<img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-wink.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

AGENT_007 · Apr 8, 2008

Saiph, I respect your determination in disproving me and you just might learn something in the process.Whatever measurements, calculations or evidence you feel you may have I will be happy to show you that it is indeed not 100% accurate or what you had thought. I can comfortably say I know more about this subject and the moon than 99.999% of the population including most who work for NASA being involved with what I have been involved in and personally visiting the moon, how did I get there some might ask.The same way the government has always been doing it believe it or not, in shield gravity alien technology craft so show me the data and I will show you the truth. I do have pictures that would blow away the assembly line of the farside of the moon. As you should know the far side of the moon never faces earth and nobody can view it unless they have been over the moon. There is a good reason for this and if it ever did face earth directly we would all know!Those who wish to learn something need to keep an open mind on this post and consider what your governments have been hiding from you for even thousands of years,of course it's hard to swallow but it doesn't change the truth in which I have well hinted in the above post. When the earth was declared round 99.999% laughed about it and thought it was insane. This is another one of those cases! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

AGENT_007 · Apr 8, 2008

<img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/5/13/55e8c528-93a9-435d-9de0-8fb2292e7d03.Medium.jpg" alt="" />George Adamski,Adamski said that the photographs of the far side of the Moon that were taken by the Soviet lunar probe Luna 3 in 1959 were fake and that there were cities, trees, and snow-capped mountains there instead. <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/9/11/5962b49b-961b-4909-9b66-d6c7f1137b1d.Medium.jpg" alt="" />Howard Menger,In September 1956, also in the company of Earth people (Not named), Menger says he was taken for a trip to the Moon. This trip, it was pointed out by the extraterrestrial hosts, would be longer than the others, and would require 'processing' the humans' bodies. 'Each atom of your physical body will undergo a processing which will change its polarity, frequency and vibration, to adjust your body from its balance to the earth's attractive inertial mass to that of the moon's,' the host explained. 'This will require approximately a week and one half, Earth time.' Menger and the others were led to their sleeping quarters on the craft, consisting of three bunk-beds per compartment. 'The bed didn't feel overly soft.' Menger reported, 'instead it seemed to give just the correct extent to support the contour of the body. I laid my head on a flat pad of soft material, and pulled the single warm but extremely light coverlet over myself.' In the morning, the guests showered in a compartment containing three or four cubicles, partitioned by translucent walls. 'When I stepped inside one of the cubicles the door closed behind me and lights went on automatically,' Menger reported. 'Three shower heads, one above me and two at waist level, could be operated separately or all together.' "I pushed a button and a flow of water, apparently mixed with warm air for it was quite bubbly, fell over my body. I had never had a shower so invigorating.I looked around for soap, but there was none. Seeing another button I had not previously pushed, I put my finger on it and a stream of colorless solution came from the shower heads and completely lathered my body; at the same time the water was turned off. I pushed the 'soap' button, then the 'water' button, alternately, enjoying the novelty like a small boy would have done." The lavatory bowl reportedly looked 'very much like one on Earth, except that the bowl was lower to the floor and was made of a hard white translucent material, not a ceramic'. In a mirror above a kind of basin, Menger was surprised to notice that he did not need to shave, which was just as well, since he had not brought a razor with him. And interestingly throughout the estimated 10 day trip, he said, the guests found it unnecessary to shave. Food was served in the main compartment of the spacecraft. "Our instructor opened a compartment in the wall and withdrew some items of processed food, which he put into a deep well, or pot, set into a sink like unit. He pushed a button and the pot filled with liquid. He allowed the food to steep in the liquid for about five minutes, then he drained the liquid from the pot. He pushed another button and almost instantly the appearance of the food changed and steam rose from it. It had been cooked in little more than a second! He removed the food from the pot by means of a large, deep strainer and transferred it to plastic-like plates which he said were disposable. " The food supposedly consisted of vegetables such as potatoes with 'a meaty, nut-like flavor', cabbage, carrots, parsley ('much larger than our variety'), 'green mineral salt' for seasoning, 'very large wheat kernels', nuts of various kinds, served in slices, and a fruit about six inches in diameter, orange-red in color, that tasted like a combination of peach and plum. 'I am not certain how long we spent,' Menger reported, 'but estimating by my watch, I believed it to be about 10 days. I have often thought that time might have been different on board, possibly because my beard didn't seem to grow; but that could have been a result of our conditioning - however, all our other bodily functions seemed to progress normally.' On arrival at the Moon, Menger began to take more photos, with the aid of some colored filters given him by his hosts. After the spacecraft landed at a dome-shaped building , about 150 feet wide and 50 feet high, the guests were taken, in different groups, for a guided tour of the Moon, in a 'long train-like vehicle with ten or fifteen coaches with plastic domes over them' which glided noiselessly about a foot above a 'copper highway'. "We passed mountains, went through valleys, visited underground installations... Huge cliffs and mountains made our own look like ant hills. One particular desert locale brought to mind 'The Valley of Fire' in Nevada. My first impression was that I was in the desert. I looked up at the sky. It was a yellowish color. When looking I had the queer impression that if I walked some distance I would fall off, since the horizon seemed foreshortened. The ground beneath our feet was like yellowish-white powdery sand, with stones and boulders and some minute plant life showing here and there as we looked around us." In addition to the group of 'learned' Earth people he traveled with in the spacecraft, Menger spotted 'hundreds of Russians, Japanese, Germans and other people from other nations' who also were being taken on a guided tour of the Moon.       <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

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