<font color="yellow">or (near twilight) Jupiter or Mars. </font><br /><br />You can see Venus and Jupiter in full daylight on a very clear day, if you look in <i>exactly</i> the right place. Even looking in the right place, at first it's just hard to find, because the contrast against the bright sky is subtle and your eye-focus might not be at infinity. I used to do this for fun, when I was in HS. Once you do find Jupiter, it's surprising and then rather obvious.<br /><br />I never tried with Mars, Saturn or Mercury. I assume these would be significantly harder and maybe impossible. By the way, there was an article in S&T about this subject about 6 months ago. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature" align="center"><em><font color="#0000ff">- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -</font></em> </div><div class="Discussion_UserSignature" align="center"><font color="#0000ff"><em>I really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function.</em></font> </div> </div>