Sober when they get there

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http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/07/26/astronaut.drinking.ap/index.html <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[spacefire]

hmm...I guess alcoholism was not a rejection factor.<br />Nor was being a nutcase.<br /><br />I suggest we all forget this manned space flight and go back to launching monkeys, at least their only vice is banana pellets <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>http://asteroid-invasion.blogspot.com</p><p>http://www.solvengineer.com/asteroid-invasion.html </p><p> </p> </div>

 

[spacelifejunkie]

Drinking and flying shuttles? Total <i>***Intentional Bypassing of the Profanity Filter Deleted***</i>. Heads need to start rollin'. How is this possible? I spend a lot of time around teenagers and they have enough trouble trying to escape the dangers of alcohol and drugs and now we have astronauts DUI? Damn, I'd go to jail and pay thousands of dollars for DDing a crappy used car. These people fly SPACE SHUTTLES!!! Kids are running out of heroes and I would have never thought that NASA's finest would be guilty of such gross irresponsibility. How will NASA explain this? I noticed the 12 hour "bottle to throttle" rule. Not enough time by a long shot! Billions of dollars. Thousands of man hours. We've already lost two shuttles. NASA would be finished if they lost another one due to drunken pilots. I'm pissed and not getting over it any time soon.<br /><br /><br />SLJ<br /><br /><br />

 

[mah_fl]

If was going to get stapped into a huge potential bomb, I think I might have a few beers the night before, but not too many as being unfit for duty the next day.....

 

[bobblebob]

I really cant see some of the reports being true. They may have had some traces of alcohol in them, but i very much doubt its as bad as made out

 

[SpaceKiwi]

I agree. The full details are yet to come out, but I would be extremely surprised if either of the two occasions being speculated about in the press involved Flight Deck astronauts, particularly the CDR and PLT.<br /><br />If it should prove that a Mid Deck astronaut had a blood-alcohol level higher than acceptable, well, they are only passengers on the vehicle anyway. The only way I could immediately see that perhaps being a flght risk is in a bail-out situation.<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em><font size="2" color="#ff0000">Who is this superhero?  Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!</font></em></p><p><em><font size="2">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></em></p><p><font size="5">Bring Back The Black!</font></p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

That's what I am thinking. There's no way a commander or Pilot would be in anything but top condition during a launch.<br /><br />NASA would have postponed a flight for that. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[thereiwas]

If the flight surgeon said they were a risk, and crewmates said they were a risk, that's enough. If that happened post Challenger and some manager approved them for flight anyway (go fever) the manager should be sacked as well as the astronauts.

 

[vogon13]

No particular surprise for me that this might be a problem . . .<br /><br /><br />{we're everywhere}<br /><br /><br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#ff0000"><strong>TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#339966"><strong>So many people, so few recipes !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#0000ff"><strong>Let's clean up this stinkhole !!</strong></font> </p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

Yes, they said yesterday that it would be. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

It's on NASA TV Now <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[bobblebob]

Listen to parts of the conference, these claims are from unverified sources and Nasa are still investigating?<br /><br />The main issue seems to be their concerns not being taking seriously by nasa

 

[MeteorWayne]

They didn't really say they are unverified, but rather that they are allegations being investigated. Work in progress. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[wubblie]

Anyone know if the Russians were/are allowed vodka on the MIR and ISS. Also, how much actual "flying" is done by astronauts during launch?

 

[3488]

This needs to be dealt with.<br /><br />Nothing short of a full investigation should happen.<br /><br />Are atronauts not dope & alcohol tested anyway?<br /><br />This seems to show a huge gap in procedural policy preflight.<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

Look, the 'nauts are locked up in quarentine for a week before launch.<br /><br />Are you suggesting they shouldn't be allowed to have a beer (or ale) after work?<br /><br />The flight surgeon lives with them in quarentine.<br /><br />If there ever was a problem in the past, there sure as heck won't be one now, so I see no reason for ANY concern about this or any future flights. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[bobblebob]

Dont think anyone can argue they deserve a drink or 2, but like driving a car you shouldnt have any in your system when taking to the wheel. Flying a shuttle is a hell of alot more complex than driving, so they need to be in perfect condition

 

[scottb50]

This sounds like a tempest in a tea pot to me. An Astronaut has a couple of beers the night before he flies. So what?<br /><br />Now, if he, or she, is swigging from a bottle on the launch pad that would be different, but if they had a couple or three drinks during dinner the night before. Who cares?<br /><br />Here in Arizona if you have smoked any pot in the last two to four weeks, which shows up in a piss test, you are guilty of DUI even though you might not have indulged for days or weeks, the metabolites don't say when, with any specific accuracy. That the actual effects of usage are closer to consuming alcohol, in time, is not considered. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[kosmonavtkaa]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>"Anyone know if the Russians were/are allowed vodka on the MIR and ISS."<br /><br />They were alowed vodka on Mir. I do not think it is allowed on the ISS unless the Russians have it in their modules.<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />Do astronauts and alcohol mix?, Cosmic Log, 17/1/2006 (note the photo <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> )<br /><br /><font color="orange">Peggy Whitson, the NASA scientist who supervised the American science program for Norm Thagard's mission to Mir in 1995, was dismayed to find that the cosmonauts actually smoked cigarettes and drank vodka aboard the station. The vodka, she discovered, was stored inside half-liter "drink bags" that were sent up on Progress supply ships under the guise of "psychological support" materials. At one point, Whitson watched an American clinician jokingly show off one of the vodka bags. "I said, 'It's not a joke,' " she remembers. "If Safety knew, it would have a cow." Whitson was equally concerned that drinking vodka, a diuretic, would ruin American science data on the cosmonauts' diet.<br /> - Brian Burrough, <i>Dragonfly</i></font><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[bobblebob]

I think that is most likely the case, but still asks the questions "why werent the doctors concerns taken seriously?"<br /><br />From the report, it seems to suggest Nasa didnt take onboard what they said at all

 

[SpaceKiwi]

I think it's likely that astronauts won't be named as a result of the investigation, and one probably shouldn't speculate, but I've wondered to myself if Christa McAuliffe might have been one.<br /><br />IIRC we've had discussion here in the past about her nervousness that fateful day, and she was arguably one of the most 'civilian' of people ever to accept the mantle and responsibilty of becoming an Astronaut. Plus you had that start/stop nature of the launch, which would test the pre-flight nerves of more seasoned flyers than her.<br /><br />One could hardly begrudge such a person from strengthening up the resolve with the aid of a stiff drink or two? I know I certainly wouldn't.<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em><font size="2" color="#ff0000">Who is this superhero?  Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!</font></em></p><p><em><font size="2">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></em></p><p><font size="5">Bring Back The Black!</font></p> </div>

 

[bobblebob]

I wonder for even veteran astranaunt , how terrified they get right before a launch? As much as i would love to go up into space, i would be terrified of it. Any number of things can go wrong. I dont even like flying in a plane that much<br />

 

[mattblack]

This is a sensationalised media beat-up. If not for the Lisa Nowak incident, this may not even have come up. I believe it's intentionally being done by someone with an agenda to damage Nasa. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>One Percent of Federal Funding For Space: America <strong><em><u>CAN</u></em></strong> Afford it!!  LEO is a <strong><em>Prison</em></strong> -- It's time for a <em><strong>JAILBREAK</strong></em>!!</p> </div>

 

[arkady]

More twisted morality. It's everywhere I tell you. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "<font color="#0000ff"><em>The choice is the Universe, or nothing</em> ... </font>" - H.G Wells </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

It was not a NASA employee, it was a subcontractor's employee. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>