Supernova at 10 Light years

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steve01

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What if an imaginary massive star 10 light years away from earth went supernova. obviously in ten years time we would see the visual effects but, how long would we have before the physical explosion engulfed us? And would we be fubar'd?
 
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steve01

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so as soon as we optically viewed it we would also feel the effects of the raidation? right.<br /><br />What if it was angled in such a way that it only exposed the southern or northern hemisphere? would the radiation propagate through the atmosphere or would the population in the other hemisphere be spared until the shock-wave hit?
 
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igorsboss

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<font color="yellow">There is not much in the way of air exchange between the northern and southern hemispheres</font><br /><br />The weather looks that way because there is a net inflow of heat at the equator, and a net outflow of heat at the poles. Air and water transport that energy convectively from hot to cold, forming storms along the way.<br /><br />If there was a very large net inflow of energy at one of the poles, the energy would find a way to flow from the hot pole to the cold pole. The weather patterns would look very different for a while.
 
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nacnud

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Supernove at 10 light years?<br /><br />Umm nice crunchy humanity <br /><br />/homer
 
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silylene old

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It might be pretty as the oceans light up in a fleeting flash of Cherenkov blue as some of the water molecules are struck by the supernova's neutrinos. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature" align="center"><em><font color="#0000ff">- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -</font></em> </div><div class="Discussion_UserSignature" align="center"><font color="#0000ff"><em>I really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function.</em></font> </div> </div>
 
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aaron38

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If the light from Sirius was shining through an interstellar gas cloud, could that make it's light apear red, like the sun at sunset? The cloud would be extremely tenuous, but it could be light years instead of a hundred miles.<br /><br />And with changing star positions, the cloud could have moved off.
 
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Saiph

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that could work, however I don't recall any nebulae nearby (quite the opposite really) and only 8ly of depth means the reddening effect is going to be minimal. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p align="center"><font color="#c0c0c0"><br /></font></p><p align="center"><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">----</font></em></font><font color="#666699">SaiphMOD@gmail.com </font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">-------------------</font></em></font></p><p><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">"This is my Timey Wimey Detector.  Goes "bing" when there's stuff.  It also fries eggs at 30 paces, wether you want it to or not actually.  I've learned to stay away from hens: It's not pretty when they blow" -- </font></em></font><font size="1" color="#999999">The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>
 
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toothferry

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how far from a supernova would Earth need to be to escape serious damage from the radiation?
 
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Saiph

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The closest I'd want one is ~50ly. I think we're down to skin cancer for anyone outside at that point. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p align="center"><font color="#c0c0c0"><br /></font></p><p align="center"><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">----</font></em></font><font color="#666699">SaiphMOD@gmail.com </font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">-------------------</font></em></font></p><p><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">"This is my Timey Wimey Detector.  Goes "bing" when there's stuff.  It also fries eggs at 30 paces, wether you want it to or not actually.  I've learned to stay away from hens: It's not pretty when they blow" -- </font></em></font><font size="1" color="#999999">The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>
 
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Saiph

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while a Supernovae's primary radiation is in the x-ray and higher energies, a significan portion is also in the UV band <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p align="center"><font color="#c0c0c0"><br /></font></p><p align="center"><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">----</font></em></font><font color="#666699">SaiphMOD@gmail.com </font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">-------------------</font></em></font></p><p><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">"This is my Timey Wimey Detector.  Goes "bing" when there's stuff.  It also fries eggs at 30 paces, wether you want it to or not actually.  I've learned to stay away from hens: It's not pretty when they blow" -- </font></em></font><font size="1" color="#999999">The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>
 
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Saiph

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UV also destroys the ozone layer. Get a strong enough burst, an a SN can punch it's own hole.<br /><br /><br />Here's a neat tidbit I picked up at a conference last spring: Simulations of gamma ray bursters show that the gamma rays from one in our galaxy could easily effect weather patterns to a noticible or even dangerous extent. Significant effects occur even when the GRB is thousands of light years away. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p align="center"><font color="#c0c0c0"><br /></font></p><p align="center"><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">----</font></em></font><font color="#666699">SaiphMOD@gmail.com </font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">-------------------</font></em></font></p><p><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">"This is my Timey Wimey Detector.  Goes "bing" when there's stuff.  It also fries eggs at 30 paces, wether you want it to or not actually.  I've learned to stay away from hens: It's not pretty when they blow" -- </font></em></font><font size="1" color="#999999">The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>
 
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