"The Island" movie

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Leovinus

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I saw previews for it and I see that it stars Obi-Ewan McGregor. Sounds cool and I look forward to seeing it.<br /><br />Any comments? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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londo_mollari

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Isn't it a rework of Logan's Run?<br />I saw previews before Batman and I never heard anything else about it before then. Trailer looks cool, I like how savages live in left overs of moredn day cities.<br />Im looking forward to it <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" />
 
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I also thought it was a remake of Logan's Run from the beginning of the trailer, but quickly turned into something else, more along the lines of Freejack, or your choice of rebel clone scifi. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#993366"><em>The only laws of matter are those which our minds must fabricate, and the only laws of mind are fabricated for it by matter.</em> <br /> --- James Clerk Maxwell</font></p> </div>
 
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tom_hobbes

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Just watched the trailer online, looks interesting. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font size="2" color="#339966"> I wish I could remember<br /> But my selective memory<br /> Won't let me</font><font size="2" color="#99cc00"> </font><font size="3" color="#339966"><font size="2">- </font></font><font size="1" color="#339966">Mark Oliver Everett</font></p><p> </p> </div>
 
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londo_mollari

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To me it looks exactly like Logan's Run, from what I can remember.<br />People are taken to The Island, which menas they are killed or in this case put in some king of statis and from trailers it looks like their fluids are drained away. <br />So actually its kinda of mix between Logans Run and Soylent Green <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" />
 
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tom_hobbes

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Looks more like a mix of Coma, Matrix and Capricorn One. Fitting movie for Bush's America. Check out the subtext. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font size="2" color="#339966"> I wish I could remember<br /> But my selective memory<br /> Won't let me</font><font size="2" color="#99cc00"> </font><font size="3" color="#339966"><font size="2">- </font></font><font size="1" color="#339966">Mark Oliver Everett</font></p><p> </p> </div>
 
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wmdragon

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those were just my first impressions. the trailer I saw really left me confused as to what the actual premise was. all I got in the end was that the protagonists are clones and they are treated like products, not human beings. maybe that is just as well, I like to be surprised by movies, which doesnt happen often. if there is good buzz I'll go see it clueless as to what it is really about. I still remember the joy of finding out that answer to "what is the Matrix?" in the movie itself and not the trailers. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#993366"><em>The only laws of matter are those which our minds must fabricate, and the only laws of mind are fabricated for it by matter.</em> <br /> --- James Clerk Maxwell</font></p> </div>
 
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londo_mollari

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She is, but unfortunelly she is lesbian <img src="/images/icons/frown.gif" />
 
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tom_hobbes

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Not quite the same thing but there's a germ of something here...<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font size="2" color="#339966"> I wish I could remember<br /> But my selective memory<br /> Won't let me</font><font size="2" color="#99cc00"> </font><font size="3" color="#339966"><font size="2">- </font></font><font size="1" color="#339966">Mark Oliver Everett</font></p><p> </p> </div>
 
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Leovinus

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I saw this movie yesterday. IT WAS GREAT!!!!<br /><br />The only thing I didn't like was the obvious and unnecessary product placement for a company that I detest. But I'll overlook it. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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wmdragon

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really? my expectations for this movie based on a review and trailers have lowered somewhat, to the level of rental for now. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#993366"><em>The only laws of matter are those which our minds must fabricate, and the only laws of mind are fabricated for it by matter.</em> <br /> --- James Clerk Maxwell</font></p> </div>
 
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Leovinus

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Go during the afternoon cheap prices. I'm telling you, even my wife who hates SciFi loved this movie. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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spaceinator

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very good movie (does not measure up to the matrix though)
 
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wmdragon

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the criticism I heard was that the setup is good but then turns into a long, drawn out LOUD chase scene sequence. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#993366"><em>The only laws of matter are those which our minds must fabricate, and the only laws of mind are fabricated for it by matter.</em> <br /> --- James Clerk Maxwell</font></p> </div>
 
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arconin

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<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p> Yeah. And? <p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />many people dont like loud drawn out chase scenes especially when you can mostly assume the 'good guys' are going to win. <br /><br />Even if they dont or cant win, chase scenes beyond a certain length lose their impact and become tedious. It ceases to be entertaining. In order for the chase scene to continue for a long time, the protagonist needs to frequently do amazing improbable things and the antagonist needs to frequently screw up or do dumb things which both get boring after a long enough time.
 
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Leovinus

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Well, this chase scene was anything but boring. And it wasn't a 1-hour long chase scene anyway. Yeah, the second half of the movie did involve some pursuit, but there were other plot elements in there too which I won't spoil for you. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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hracctsold

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I have a friend at work that was really promoting the movie and hoping it was good as she thought. She also made the comparison to Logan's Run and Soyant Green, which I still have to check out. But that and availability to see it got me to watch it with my wife, and we both thought it was GREAT!! I'm into SF, and she is only occasionally to humor me or is entrigued by it.<br /><br />The critics I think have been a little hard on it, as they seem to be on many such movies of this kind, but it had some good chase scenes in it and viewed life and wonder about life from a clone's perspective. No spoilers, but can a clone be bred with a desire or interest in something the original has in their life.<br /><br /><br /><br />POSSIBLE SPOILERS<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />There may have been a scene or two where you had to put your reality on hold for a moment, but on the whole I liked it for the reason of, can a clone ask the eternal question of "why" and "what is the purpose of this or that"? Or are they just some tissue thrown together that can not do any independent thinking? Or as Data would say, or ask, what can make me a human being?<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />I'm also glad to see some talk about this movie as well, because I thought it might have gone the way of some other movies worthy of at least a mention or two. It is well worth the time to check out and consider who is real and who is just a copy of reality, or is that Memorex.
 
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darth_elmo

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It's a remake of <i>The Clonus Horror</i>, which was really one of the most remarkably bad movies of all time. Even if it's merely bad, it's an improvement over the original.
 
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avaunt

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Well I just saw it, and I thought it was pretty good, right up to the last five minutes.<br />Spoilers<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Spoilers<br /><br />I Loved how McGegor seemed to play HIMSELF as the client. He seemed to me to have no trouble at all playing the client role, but seemed to falter as the clone.<br /><br />The jet bike/machinegun sidecar combo?. <br /><br />Tigger LIKES it, I WANT ONE!. <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />Scarlett Jo"&%$#@!"son ?. YEP, one of those too, while you are at it. Bee sting you on the lips, BABY?. I got something for you to put on that!.<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" />
 
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what was wrong with the last bit? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p align="center"><font color="#c0c0c0"><br /></font></p><p align="center"><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">----</font></em></font><font color="#666699">SaiphMOD@gmail.com </font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">-------------------</font></em></font></p><p><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">"This is my Timey Wimey Detector.  Goes "bing" when there's stuff.  It also fries eggs at 30 paces, wether you want it to or not actually.  I've learned to stay away from hens: It's not pretty when they blow" -- </font></em></font><font size="1" color="#999999">The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>
 
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Leovinus

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Beats me. I liked it. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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Saiph

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Yeah, I liked it too. Nothing to cheesy, and they even made fun of themselves with the chase seen when:<br /><br />Spoiler<br /><br />The construction guy says, "jesus must really love you" after the fall from the skyscraper.<br /><br />They know it's silly, but it's fun to watch. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p align="center"><font color="#c0c0c0"><br /></font></p><p align="center"><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">----</font></em></font><font color="#666699">SaiphMOD@gmail.com </font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">-------------------</font></em></font></p><p><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">"This is my Timey Wimey Detector.  Goes "bing" when there's stuff.  It also fries eggs at 30 paces, wether you want it to or not actually.  I've learned to stay away from hens: It's not pretty when they blow" -- </font></em></font><font size="1" color="#999999">The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>
 
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Spoilers answer to Saiph<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Spoilers.<br /><br /><br />WHY, I ask you, would a doctor that has fifty or more guards, and at least one paid killer at hand, go after someone that he KNOWS is a trained fighter ( that game they played ) SINGLE HANDED.<br /><br />Sure, go along to direct things, but did he spend 15 years in medical school, to end up using the bluntest of instruments himself?.<br /><br />And when a fan that size comes off its mounting, a LOT MORE GOES WRONG. It must have weighed 4 or five tonnes, and that was if it was mostly aluminium. If a piece of machinery that size comes unstuck because it has been over accelerated, YOU DO NOT RUN AWAY BATTING ASIDE THE FALLING DEBRIS.<br /><br />And why did they have all these stupidities tacked onto the end of an otherwise reasonably unfeasible movie?.<br /><br />Because thats how you make a blockbuster these days. Gotta be a big climatic explosion, and a fight scene where titanic blows ALMOST, but not quite, defeat the hero, but he comes back from what in any NORMAL person would be a coma, to strike down his oppressor.<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /><br /><br /><br />What I really liked was how his "Client" simply ragdolled, and fell over, because he got one shot into the solarplexus. Which is what would happen 99% of the time.<br /><br />Why not at the end of the movie, have the doctor move in to kill the clone, and the younger, fitter, and actually better trained clone, simply kick him once in his leading kneecap, and then punch the falling doctor once in the side of the head, Doctor goes to bye bye-land.<br />Clone escapes with other clones.<br /><br />Whats wrong with that?.
 
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