Titan's Surface Organics Surpass Oil Reserves on Earth.

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Titan maybe has more organics than Earth?<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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I'm beginning to think if it came down to a choice between the two, as to where to send a dedicated lander, we might want to bypass Europa and go to Titan. The opportunities for study, just in terms of cryogenic chemistries, is astounding! <br /><br />Let alone life! And if there isn't life, its a great laboratory to pose the other question: why not?<br /><br />v3k <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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I'm a Jupiter system fan, but actually I do agree with you on this one.<br /><br />Myself I would like to see orbiters & landers on all four of the Galileans, Titan & Triton.<br /><br />Landers on Dione, Iapetus, Miranda, Ariel, Titania & Oberon to accompany Saturn & Uranus <br />Orbiters.<br /><br />AFAIK, a Titan Orbiter, Balloon & Lander is possibly on the cards anyway.<br /><br />What ever happens Titan will be a major part of Cassini's extended mission along<br />with Enceladus. Myself would also like to see Dione & Iapetus be focus points also.<br /><br />I wonder what life could exist there? Average -180 C / 93 K temps, virtually no sunlight.<br /><br />However there is evidence of cryovolcanism, a source of heat, Ganesa Macula a large Titan cryoshield volcano, <br />approx 180 KM wide & 1,200 metres tall.<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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<font color="yellow">Myself I would like to see orbiters & landers on all four of the Galileans, Titan & Triton. <br /><br />Landers on Dione, Iapetus, Miranda, Ariel, Titania & Oberon to accompany Saturn & Uranus <br />Orbiters. </font><br /><br />I really disagree with your list. You list 12 bodies for landers but NOT Enceladous!?!? Enceladous is virtually certain to have liquid water and would be my FIRST choice for a lander. Now, I think reasonable minds can differ between say Europa, Titan and Enceladous. But come on, there is no way that a reasonable mind could not put Enceladous IN THE TOP 12.<br />
 
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ESA's Cosmic Vision will have to make a choice between Laplace (Europa Orbiter) and TandEM (Titan airship plus Enceladus lander).<br />Fits your shortlist Rob?
 
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hi Andrew,<br /><br />in reply to<br />--------<br />I wonder what life could exist there? Average -180 C / 93 K temps, virtually no sunlight. <br />--------<br /><br />You can also think about "-70 to +10°C, no sunlight at all" in the subshelf ocean of water / water-ammonia...<br /><br />regards
 
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A huge shame that both cannot happen. <img src="/images/icons/frown.gif" /><br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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Hi RobNissen,<br /><br />You are correct, I thought tyhat I had included Enceladus.<br /><br />Perhaps swap Miranda for Enceladus. <br /><br />Also the Enceladus lander would have seimsmometers & tilt meters. <br /><br />Perhaps a cryobot to descend on the the Tiger Stripes?<br /><br />We'll see relatively soon, if Cassini holds out until post January 2010, if the Enceladus geysers<br />are still active?<br /><br />By then the Sun will have set over the actual south pole, & the Tiger Stipes will <br />spend much of the time in darkness & under a very low Sun.<br /><br />If tidally induced geyser activity, it should continue, despite the sourse being in darkness,<br />if solar induced, they will shut down & freeze.<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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<font color="yellow"> if Cassini holds out until post January 2010, if the Enceladus geysers <br />are still active? <br /><br />By then the Sun will have set over the actual south pole, & the Tiger Stipes will <br />spend much of the time in darkness & under a very low Sun. <br /><br />If tidally induced geyser activity, it should continue, despite the sourse being in darkness, <br />if solar induced, they will shut down & freeze. </font><br /><br />Interesting point. Perhaps it will turn out that Cassini arrived at a very fortuitous time.<br /><br />
 
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It is a shame we can't do both, but if I have to take one, "TandEM (Titan airship plus Enceladus lander)" gets my vote.
 
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