Vandenberg's SLC-6 Comes Alive With Delta IV Launch

[propforce]

World News & Analysis <br /> <br />Vandenberg's SLC-6 Comes Alive With Delta IV Launch <br /><br />Aviation Week & Space Technology <br />06/26/2006, page 43 <br /> <br />Michael Mecham <br />San Francisco <br /> <br />Craig Covault <br />Cape Canaveral <br /> <br /><br />[Article removed by original author's request.] <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[bpcooper]

Thank you. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>-Ben</p> </div>

 

[CalliArcale]

We generally permit cut-and-pasting as long as proper attribution is given, which propforce did. It is better etiquette to post a link or an excerpt plus a link, but we do not enforce etiquette. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[crix]

That was a great read! With so much detail you could practically *see* it.<br /><br />I agree though, seems legally wrong to copy and paste from a subscription magazine.... then again, I'm looking into subscribing now after reading that article.

 

[Testing]

May not be much to see. Pretty heavy overcast next couple days. 30% chance of a weather scrub. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[qso1]

Slick 6 finally gets to be used after only 40 years. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>My borrowed quote for the time being:</strong></p><p><em>There are three kinds of people in life. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen...and those who do not know what happened.</em></p> </div>

 

[propforce]

<font color="yellow">We generally permit cut-and-pasting as long as proper attribution is given, which propforce did. It is better etiquette to post a link or an excerpt plus a link, but we do not enforce etiquette. </font><br /><br />Sorry I was not aware of this etiquette. My understanding was as long as the credit was acknowledged to the original publication then it was okay. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[qso1]

Thanks, I'd forgotten that. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>My borrowed quote for the time being:</strong></p><p><em>There are three kinds of people in life. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen...and those who do not know what happened.</em></p> </div>

 

[CalliArcale]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>Sorry I was not aware of this etiquette. My understanding was as long as the credit was acknowledged to the original publication then it was okay.<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />It's rude, but we don't force politeness. However, I have now received a formal request from the author himself. Aviation Week does not furnish this material anywhere on the web; it is for paid subscribers only. I am removing it. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[propforce]

<font color="yellow">It's rude, but we don't force politeness. However, I have now received a formal request from the author himself. Aviation Week does not furnish this material anywhere on the web; it is for paid subscribers only. I am removing it. </font><br /><br />Please do so. Again I apologize as I was not aware of these rules.<br /><br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[CalliArcale]

Don't feel too bad; it's something not a lot of people think about. Basically, by reposting it here, you were decreasing Aviation Week's revenue, and that revenue is what pays people like Craig Couvalt to write such wonderful articles.<br /><br />So, we all live and learn. For now, we only remove such things if someone representing the copyright holder actually requests removal, but I could see that changing to a more proactive stance. If nothing else it would help to educate people about the importance of copying. Fair use is one thing; this is not fair use. Most sites don't bother to enforce their copyrights, but that should not be construed to make it permissable. You never know which copyright holder will choose to enforce their copyright and maintain control over their intellectual property.<br /><br />BTW, it is considered fair use to quote an article. There is no legally defined distinction between quoting and plagiarism, but it's usually pretty much a common sense thing. Certainly reprinting it in its entirety is not covered by fair use. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[Testing]

AWST has a copywrite statement on thier front web page.<br /><br />SLC-6 way have a weather problem, but it may blow through in time for the 2014 PST launch. It is located on the Western most tip of land below Santa Maria. Too much overcast for me to catch it.<br /><br />http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=vbx&product=NCR&overlay=11101111&loop=no <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[Testing]

Go, or no go? Watched from 2000 to 2030, clear horizon but mountains in the way. Should have been able to see if it went. Any word? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[scottb50]

Long gone and an interesting orbit. Got a lot of coverage. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[CalliArcale]

Originally built in the 60s, SLC-6 has now hosted its <i>second</i> successful mission. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> It's seemed like an almost cursed site; SpaceflightNow's launch story described it as "star-crossed". Build for the Manned Orbiting Laboratory, which was cancelled, and then modified for polar-orbit Shuttle launches, which were then cancelled, and then hosting a series of Athena launches, of which only one was a complete success. It sat vacant until Boeing modified it for Delta IV.<br /><br />I have a coworker who worked on the Shuttle mods at SLC-6. He was very happy to hear about the launch. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[Testing]

Apparently I was not patient enough. My only clear view to the West is about 3/4 mile from the house. I called it quits at 2030. Reports from co-workers say the staging was pretty spectacular. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[scottb50]

My Father-in-law was one of the managers until they canceled the Shuttle project. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[propforce]

Great launch photo from San Diego ! <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[propforce]

<font color="yellow">My Father-in-law was one of the managers until they canceled the Shuttle project. </font><br /><br />In the mid-80's after the Shuttle project at VAFB was canceled, there was such a mass exodus that you could not give away your house in the nearby town Lompoc. <br /><br />We had a few engineers at the time that was refugees from the Shuttle project at VAFB.<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[scottb50]

He went to Denver and retired from Martin in 1985. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>