As was suggested in the other threads you started, it would help if you posted a picture of the object(s), as well as a description of the size, weight and shape of the objects. <br /><br />Thanks. <br /><br />(And please don't use all caps. It's considered "shouting.") <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>