White Knight 2 Unveiling

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Carrickagh

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<p>Here's an image of WK2 and SS2 from AW&ST back at the beginning of 2008. I suspect it will look almost exactly like this rendering. I've read it will have a wingspan of over 140 feet and is capable of carrying about 30,000 pounds. That's a lot of bananas!!</p><p><br /><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/14/15/9ec435e2-c812-40ae-8f8e-dac5d8c241fd.Medium.jpg" alt="" /></p><p>I believe VG has ordered two WK2s. They were rumored to be named "Spirit of Steve Fossett" and "Eve."</p><p>This article about the WK2's 4 P&W engines is from way back but I found it interesting. The comments about biofuels were also rather interesting.</p><p>http://www.pwc.ca/en/0_0/0_0_8/0_0_8_1_1_1.asp?id_news=454</p><p>Here are some "under constructions" from AW&ST:</p><p><br /><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/12/9/5c0d86a2-503a-4575-b936-6609e84a4b7d.Medium.bmp" alt="" /></p><p><br /><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/12/0/ec686907-f42f-4768-b00a-3402547dbf9f.Medium.bmp" alt="" /><br /></p><p>And here's a nice "preview" slideshow at Virgin Media. WK2 appears on slides 3, 4, 12, and is behind Branson on slide 11.</p><p>http://www.virginmedia.com/digital/science/space/virgin-galactic.php?ssid=1</p><p>I wish these guys lots of luck! It's a great endeavor!</p><p>*****</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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In a CNN interview Branson said that SS2 should be ready in about 9 months and that 50 test flights will be done over the following 18 months.&nbsp; If those go well then the 1st passenger flight (Brainson & his family) will occur shortly after. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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No matter what else one may think about the viability of this concept, or Burt Rutan's freewheeling ways, he sure does make some *beautiful* aircraft.&nbsp; That thing is gorgeous! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>No matter what else one may think about the viability of this concept, or Burt Rutan's freewheeling ways, he sure does make some *beautiful* aircraft.&nbsp; That thing is gorgeous! <br /> Posted by CalliArcale</DIV></p><p>It gives me goosebumbs to see these things being built.&nbsp; For too long public space travel has been "twenty years in the future."&nbsp; Next step: flying cars.</p><p>In case anybody wants to download the high rez photos as well as a 90mb Quicktime movie of the rollout, go to:</p><p>http://www.virgingalactic.com/pressftp/</p><p><br /> <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/10/14/4ab614c5-650f-4af0-8e84-7fa609b07d7e.Medium.jpg" alt="" /><br />&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><em>So, again we are defeated. This victory belongs to the farmers, not us.</em></p><p><strong>-Kambei Shimada from the movie Seven Samurai</strong></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>It gives me goosebumbs to see these things being built.&nbsp; For too long public space travel has been "twenty years in the future."&nbsp; Next step: flying cars.In case anybody wants to download the high rez photos as well as a 90mb Quicktime movie of the rollout, go to:http://www.virgingalactic.com/pressftp/ &nbsp; <br />Posted by PistolPete</DIV></p><p>Thanks for the link!&nbsp;</p><p><br /><br />&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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<p>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/28/AR2008072801154.html?hpid=artslot</p><p>I posted this link because of Buzz Aldrin's quote. "Don't poke a hole in it." He said from the hangar for White Knight 2.&nbsp; The article seemed to be implying that Buzz was unhappy that his exclusive status could soon be jeopardized. At any rate, he did say, Don't poke a hole in it.&nbsp;</p><p>As someone who has seen the SS One hanging in the Smithsonian, I do know what he means. SS0 looks like a toy hanging up there. At any rate, it did take two men safely into space.&nbsp;</p><p>Good job, and I hope that it is LESS than 8 months before we see the Space Ship 2. Let's build the civilian version before they build the military version. Oh wait, ahhhhhh, mmmmmmm, do you think that they already built a military version? I would think so. Those generals do like their toys as well.&nbsp; </p>
 
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<p>While I am an admirer of nose art as much as the next man, I've just realized something a tad bit unusual in the nose art for "Eve."&nbsp; Doesn't anyone else here think it a tad bit odd that Branson chose his mother to be the basis for the nose art for the airplane?&nbsp; While I love my mother as much as anyone else, I don't think that I'd depict my mom as graphically as he did, especially if it depicted here with the same well endowed... um... nosecones as this:</p><p><br /> <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/13/6/9dc787d8-88ce-4a6e-b6fa-7f790b240bb3.Medium.jpg" alt="" /><br />&nbsp;</p><p>Latent Oedipus complex?</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><em>So, again we are defeated. This victory belongs to the farmers, not us.</em></p><p><strong>-Kambei Shimada from the movie Seven Samurai</strong></p> </div>
 
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There's a passage that could make sense of that, in Heinlein's Stranger in a strange land - the part where they argue about the statue of the ugly old lady that Jubal (?) keeps in his house. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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pmn1

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<br /> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt">Knight in shining armour </span><span style="font-size:9pt;color:#999999"></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;color:#999999">Jul 31st 2008 | MOJAVE <br /> From The Economist print edition</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt"><br /> <span>Private space tourism is just the beginning</span><br /> <br /> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt">A COMPANY called Scaled Composites is to aircraft makers what Ozwald Boateng is to tailors. If Sir wants something bespoke but slightly outlandish, Sir has most definitely come to the right place. Burt Rutan, the firm&rsquo;s founder, supervised the construction of <span>Voyager</span> and <span>GlobalFlyer</span>, two aeroplanes that flew non-stop around the world. But of the 39 craft that have been built and tested at its base in Mojave, California, since 1974, none is more extraordinary than <span>White Knight Two</span>.</span></p> <p><span style="font-size:9pt">White Knight Two</span><span style="font-size:9pt"> is not merely an aircraft. It is the first stage of a spaceship. &ldquo;Sir&rdquo;, in this case, is Sir Richard Branson&mdash;or, rather, Virgin Galactic, one of his companies. What Virgin has ordered is the largest carbon-composite plane yet constructed. It consists of a single wing 43 metres (140 feet) long (an engineering feat in itself), fitted with twin booms and fuselages. The second stage, the less imaginatively named <span>SpaceShipTwo</span>, will be slung in the middle of the wing and lifted to an altitude of 15km. There, it will be released. It will then make its own way to the edge of outer space, to the acclamation of six fare-paying passengers. </span><span style="font-size:9pt"></span></p> <p><span style="font-size:9pt">At $200,000 a seat, that should be good business. Often, however, the most interesting thing about a new technology is not what it is designed to do, but what it can do that was not in the original specification. And, according to Virgin Galactic&rsquo;s president, Will Whitehorn, the possibilities there are growing by the day. A variety of large objects other than <span>SpaceShipTwo</span> could be slung under the wing of <span>White Knight Two</span>. One application being explored is flying replacement engines for Boeing 747s around the world. <span>White Knight Two</span> could also launch small satellites into space at a cost of less than $2m each. And it would be a good way of taking pilotless reconnaissance drones to otherwise inaccessible places and then launching them. In the past two months Mr Whitehorn has, he says, been approached by 14 large organisations interested in using <span>White Knight Two</span> or buying a plane just like it. Purchasing one outright would cost $35m-40m. </span><span style="font-size:9pt"></span></p> <p><span style="font-size:9pt">The craft is surprisingly acrobatic, too. That means it is able to offer passengers zero-gravity flights. At the moment, a Boeing 727 provides such flights commercially for the Zero Gravity Corporation, a travel company. But the 727 is an ageing and thirsty vehicle. Mr Whitehorn reckons that, subject to the appropriate permissions, <span>White Knight Two</span> could offer zero-G flights for around $1,000 each, a fifth of the fare now charged. </span><span style="font-size:9pt"></span></p> <p><span style="font-size:9pt">Alan Stern, until recently the associate administrator of science programmes at NASA, America&rsquo;s space agency, reckons the combination of <span>White Knight Two</span> and <span>SpaceShipTwo</span> could also revolutionise the study of atmospheric physics. Routine flights into the upper atmosphere by <span>White Knight Two</span> on its own would offer opportunities for regular experimental work at high altitude. That would make it possible to study the heart of the ozone layer. But the combined craft would also allow access to the &ldquo;ignorosphere&rdquo;, a frustrating region 50-80km above the Earth&rsquo;s surface that is too high for conventional aircraft and too low for satellites. This would permit the study of so-called noctilucent clouds, the highest in the atmosphere, which are thought to have an important role in climate change. <span>White Knight Two</span> and <span>SpaceShipTwo</span>, says Dr Stern, could fly more experiments to noctilucent clouds in six months than NASA has managed in 40 years. The $200,000 price of a ride is about a tenth of the cost of the small, unmanned &ldquo;sounding&rdquo; rockets now used to investigate this region. </span><span style="font-size:9pt"></span></p> <p><span style="font-size:9pt">Perhaps the most intriguing research to come out of the White Knight project, however, is in aeronautic design. Pending patents, Mr Rutan is cagey about the details. But he says that building the aircraft has demonstrated something &ldquo;very significant&rdquo; about the main structural support on a wing (known as a wing spar) and that, as a consequence, his company&rsquo;s technology will allow the construction of an aeroplane of &ldquo;any size&rdquo;. </span><span style="font-size:9pt"></span></p> <p><span style="font-size:9pt">If true, that is very interesting indeed. In theory, <span>White Knight Two</span> already has the capacity to carry a single-passenger spaceship that is capable of getting not just into space, but into orbit. Carrying one person into orbit in this way is probably not commercially viable. But if a larger high-altitude jet could be built, larger orbiters would also be possible. &ldquo;We&rsquo;ve made layouts of subsonic launch airplanes that could put six people in orbit off this airport,&rdquo; he says. But the next-generation aircraft would have to be bigger. &ldquo;Much bigger. Much bigger,&rdquo; says Mr Rutan, with a twinkle in his eye.</span><span style="font-size:9pt"></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt">&nbsp;</span></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>But he says that building the aircraft has demonstrated something &ldquo;very significant&rdquo; about the main structural support on a wing (known as a wing spar) and that, as a consequence, his company&rsquo;s technology will allow the construction of an aeroplane of &ldquo;any size&rdquo;. If true, that is very interesting indeed. In theory, White Knight Two already has the capacity to carry a single-passenger spaceship that is capable of getting not just into space, but into orbit.</p><p> Carrying one person into orbit in this way is probably not commercially viable. But if a larger high-altitude jet could be built, larger orbiters would also be possible. &ldquo;We&rsquo;ve made layouts of subsonic launch airplanes that could put six people in orbit off this airport,&rdquo; he says. But the next-generation aircraft would have to be bigger. &ldquo;Much bigger. Much bigger,&rdquo; says Mr Rutan, with a twinkle in his eye. &nbsp; <br /> Posted by pmn1</DIV></p><p>The mind boggles with the potential of the White Knght configuration, not to mention aircraft (first stages?) based on their one-piece composite wing spar tech.&nbsp; Bloody amazing barely seems to cover it.&nbsp;</p><p>BTW: Link to the article...&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>The mind boggles with the potential of the White Knght configuration, not to mention aircraft (first stages?) based on their one-piece composite wing spar tech.&nbsp; Bloody amazing barely seems to cover it.&nbsp;BTW: Link to the article...&nbsp; <br /> Posted by docm</DIV></p><p>From the Secret Projects site</p><p>http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,5003.0.html</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>WK 3 / SS3 will look like this ? (see Picture) <br /><br />that CXV from T-Space<br />a company working closely with Burt Rutan <br /><br />this Plane is called VLA (Very Large Aircraft&nbsp; <img src="http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif" border="0" alt="Roll Eyes" /> ) <br />carry CXV and QuickReach 2 booster (LOX / Propane pressure-feed techniques)<br /><br />picture of VLA are no longer on T-Space Homepage<br />but one is on this Webpage&nbsp; <img src="http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/Smileys/default/grin.gif" border="0" alt="Grin" /> </p><p>&nbsp;<br /> <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/3/1/8366dd1e-09d7-4fb5-b1fd-9c7f680ca9bd.Medium.jpg" alt="" /></p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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<p>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/08/11/cnvirgin111.xml</p><div style=""><span class="filed">Last Updated: <span style="color:#000">11:32pm BST</span>&nbsp;10/08/2008</span></div><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p class="small"></p><p class="story"><strong>James Quinn journeys into the Mojave Desert to discover how the bold will go</strong></p><p class="story">Didn't you just always want to be an astronaut? asks the blonde blogger in the seat to my right.</p><p><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="308" align="right"><tbody><tr><td rowspan="2" width="8">&nbsp;
 
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<p>pmn1, </p><p>That is the coolest thing I have ever seen.</p><p>SLJ<br /></p>
 
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