360 Degree Camera For ISS?

[mouseonmars]

<p>Watching NASA TV I thought ... why not put a 360 degree camera somewhere on the complex ?</p><p>Does such a thing exist ? Then you could look around as if being up there. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "I am your God. I am all knowing." Baal, Stargate SG-1 </div>

 

[Testing]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Watching NASA TV I thought ... why not put a 360 degree camera somewhere on the complex ?Does such a thing exist ? Then you could look around as if being up there. <br />Posted by mouseonmars</DIV></p><p>To my knowledge there are at least four. One on each end of Canadarm II, one on the truss and one on DEXTRE. There may be others.<br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>To my knowledge there are at least four. One on each end of Canadarm II, one on the truss and one on DEXTRE. There may be others. <br />Posted by Testing</DIV><br /><br />None of them are 360 degrees, but since at any mounting point much of space would be blocked by the station, that's a moot point <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[mouseonmars]

<p>Do you mean those can rotate 360 degrees, or, as I meant, send an image suitable for projection in a format like Quicktime VR ? I think Google use such cameras to photograph their "street level" images.</p><p>Maybe such cameras are also available to take video as well. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "I am your God. I am all knowing." Baal, Stargate SG-1 </div>

 

[Testing]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>None of them are 360 degrees, but since at any mounting point much of space would be blocked by the station, that's a moot point <br />Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV></p><p>I will quote Exact specified travel of those four cameras tomorrow morning. Keep in mind that two are mounted on Canadarm II adding it's articulation. Perhaps I overstated the PTU capability but overall, each of those two can cover an unobstructed hemisphere.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[Testing]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>None of them are 360 degrees, but since at any mounting point much of space would be blocked by the station, that's a moot point <br />Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV></p><p>Pan range (rotation about the mounting base) 350, Tilt 184.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[MarkStanaway]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Watching NASA TV I thought ... why not put a 360 degree camera somewhere on the complex ?Does such a thing exist ? Then you could look around as if being up there. <br /> Posted by mouseonmars</DIV></p><p>Maybe the cupola when it is installed late next year will be the ideal spot to install such a camera. The views from here should be truely spectacular.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[mouseonmars]

<p>Ah, the Cupola. Is it where you go to drink your coffee ? Hmmm, no cups in space eh ? </p><p>Of course there's a name for what I was crudely describing ... telepresence. At it's most basic form as Quicktime VR (or equivalent open source technology) right up to using a "CAVE" (four or more video walls) or VR headset to take the user live into that Cupola or other location.&nbsp; </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "I am your God. I am all knowing." Baal, Stargate SG-1 </div>

 

[mouseonmars]

<p>This is what I mean ...</p><p>http://www.bbc.co.uk/oceans/360/behindthescenes/ </p><p>It's a flash 360 degree panorama of video. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "I am your God. I am all knowing." Baal, Stargate SG-1 </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>This is what I mean ...http://www.bbc.co.uk/oceans/360/behindthescenes/ It's a flash 360 degree panorama of video. <br />Posted by mouseonmars</DIV><br /><br />I don't really understand the comparison.</p><p>Are vyou perhaps asking for a 360 degree panorama to be created from the many ISS cameras which cannot (due to their location) cover 360 degrees?</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[mouseonmars]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I don't really understand the comparison.Are vyou perhaps asking for a 360 degree panorama to be created from the many ISS cameras which cannot (due to their location) cover 360 degrees? <br /> Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV></p><p>No, I'm referring to an actual special camera that could be installed on the station.</p><p><br /> <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/14/8/1ec1186e-8241-423b-b827-0686ad8b1c60.Medium.jpg" alt="" /><br />&nbsp;</p><p><span class="boldenbig">The Telemmersion System</span> can produce video panoramas as shown on the BBC Ocean site. I wonder if the video can be streamed live from the camera as it is stitched together on the fly in the camera and can be delivered as part of an HDTV stream</p><p>For a full experience the video could be viewed with goggles or projected onto a dome screen. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "I am your God. I am all knowing." Baal, Stargate SG-1 </div>

 

[erioladastra]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>No, I'm referring to an actual special camera that could be installed on the station. &nbsp;The Telemmersion System can produce video panoramas as shown on the BBC Ocean site. I wonder if the video can be streamed live from the camera as it is stitched together on the fly in the camera and can be delivered as part of an HDTV streamFor a full experience the video could be viewed with goggles or projected onto a dome screen. <br /> Posted by mouseonmars</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Yes, you could do that - of course there would be directions where you would just see structure (but that can still be cool).&nbsp; However, I don't think there are any power/data ports in a suitable position.&nbsp; You essentially would end up doing the same thing as one of the external cameras that are on ISS - of which there are 4 on teh truss and one on the lab.&nbsp; They can essentially do 350 degree and something like +/-180.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

 

[Testing]

Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;Yes, you could do that - of course there would be directions where you would just see structure (but that can still be cool).&nbsp; However, I don't think there are any power/data ports in a suitable position.&nbsp; You essentially would end up doing the same thing as one of the external cameras that are on ISS - of which there are 4 on teh truss and one on the lab.&nbsp; They can essentially do 350 degree and something like +/-180.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; <br />Posted by erioladastra</DIV><br /><br />I pulled the End Item Data Package of the last one shipped to Canada. 350 and +/- 92. I personally measured it to three decimal places on each and every PTU. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[mouseonmars]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;Yes, you could do that - of course there would be directions where you would just see structure (but that can still be cool).&nbsp; However, I don't think there are any power/data ports in a suitable position.&nbsp; You essentially would end up doing the same thing as one of the external cameras that are on ISS - of which there are 4 on teh truss and one on the lab.&nbsp; They can essentially do 350 degree and something like +/-180.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; <br /> Posted by erioladastra</DIV></p><p>If those are rotation angles then that won't do the same as the special camera above. Or do you mean the actual angle that the lens covers ? </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "I am your God. I am all knowing." Baal, Stargate SG-1 </div>

 

[Testing]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>If those are rotation angles then that won't do the same as the special camera above. Or do you mean the actual angle that the lens covers ? <br />Posted by mouseonmars</DIV></p><p>No those are camera pointing angles relative to mounting base of the Pan Tilt Units, not lense field of view.<br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[mouseonmars]

<p>So these cameras could not be used to produce a "Quicktime VR" like video. </p><p>Does anyone understand the concept of thie special camera above ?</p><p>Each video camera is arranged to cover a spherical field of view. The video is stitched together IN REAL TIME to produce a wrap around VIDEO.</p><p>Did anyone actually VIEW the examples of this on the BBC Ocean website (see above). Jeez ! (sorry).</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "I am your God. I am all knowing." Baal, Stargate SG-1 </div>