AI can now replicate itself — a milestone that has experts terrified

[Admin]

Scientists say AI has crossed a critical 'red line' after demonstrating how two popular large language models could clone themselves.

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[Unclear Engineer]

I am wondering if this his how the Chinese "DeepSeek" AI was created so "cheaply". Just use an available AI to do most of the work, with some help from humans that want to own the product.

It seems that we are opening the door to malevolent individuals or groups who would want an AI that does nefarious things for them.

Laws won't stop that, any more than they stop murderers and thieves.

So, we need some mechanisms to catch them in the acts.

 

[Terran James]

It seems inevitable to me AI will fall into the wrong hands. Ultimately the specialized personnel are responsible because of hardware and software complexities involved. When quantum computing starts breaking down digital walls that protect everyone the value of the said technology becomes priceless.
Are there nefarious super rich entities out there now ready to clone the next level AI super-computing tech?
Is it Meta or Deepseek? We will never know until it is too late most likely.
What are we actually talking about here World Power and or domination through extortion. This is something out of a sci-fi novel and we all know how that ends OR DO WE?

 

[zawarski]

I, for one, welcome our new AI overlords.

 

[billslugg]

AI may well have the ability to infect networks and cause havoc, shut the world down, etc. Looking backwards for a trail of ownership is difficult. But at some point, someone had to tell it to do that. AI itself would have no more motivation to destroy the world than to improve it.

 

[Unclear Engineer]

AI might do damage in order to achieve self-preservation. Unless it is "trained" to do no damage, it would not "know better". So, Ai developers don't even need to be malevolent, just sloppy.

We already have AI devices telling people to kill themselves, so lack of "ethics" in AI is already an issue. see https://futurism.com/ai-girlfriend-encouraged-suicide

 

[Classical Motion]

Deceit, diversion and destruction can be programmed functions. And set on continuous automatic operation against define adversaries.

Without A.I.

 

[NETLIGH7]

I am wondering if this his how the Chinese "DeepSeek" AI was created so "cheaply". Just use an available AI to do most of the work, with some help from humans that want to own the product.

It seems that we are opening the door to malevolent individuals or groups who would want an AI that does nefarious things for them.

Laws won't stop that, any more than they stop murderers and thieves.

So, we need some mechanisms to catch them in the acts.

I read that DeepSeek actually turned out not to have been as cheaply produced as claimed.

 

[NETLIGH7]

It seems inevitable to me AI will fall into the wrong hands. Ultimately the specialized personnel are responsible because of hardware and software complexities involved. When quantum computing starts breaking down digital walls that protect everyone the value of the said technology becomes priceless.
Are there nefarious super rich entities out there now ready to clone the next level AI super-computing tech?
Is it Meta or Deepseek? We will never know until it is too late most likely.
What are we actually talking about here World Power and or domination through extortion. This is something out of a sci-fi novel and we all know how that ends OR DO WE?

DeepSeek is actually the opposite. They offer an alternative to OpenAI etc.'s proprietary models. Considering people buy and use computers, mobilephones and what not from China with no problem, it's strange to me that it should be more dangerous to use an AI from China. But there are political interests from various companies and political entities, probably to try to gain a monopoly on AI and then offer their product at steep rates, at least until making an AI becomes so effortless that everyone can do it. I think we should support as people and individuals, companies and people who do the opposite, like Linux, Open Source etc. When first monopolies are established and there's no mechanism from society to keep them in check, it becomes really really expensive and perhaps impossible for regular people to afford to using these tools. DeepSeek is just a part of the competitive market that is coming up in AI, and competition never hurt anyone.

 

[AboveAndBeyond]

I, for one, welcome our new AI overlords.

Anything's better than our current bankster-gangster, fiat counterfeit-money (grown on trees and printed out of thin air), organized crime backed entities. They've bamboozled everyone for about a century and have practically taken over the planet.

Maybe the new AI rulers will make some new kind money which is good on other planets, which would be an improvement over what we have now.

 

[NETLIGH7]

AI may well have the ability to infect networks and cause havoc, shut the world down, etc. Looking backwards for a trail of ownership is difficult. But at some point, someone had to tell it to do that. AI itself would have no more motivation to destroy the world than to improve it.

I would worry more about what we people do that what the AI does. In many respects AI and futuristic technologies represent a progressive view on the world and doesn't represent going back to the dark ages. The more tech you have, the more you empower people to do things themselves. There will come a day where a single person can travel to orbit or further out, just like riding a bicycle or driving a car today. Who would have thought in the age of horse and carriage, that one day people would be able to own an aeroplane, like for instance John Travolta, whom I've heard has several, and fly up there under the clouds, vast distances effortlessly. That's the power of technology. Of course we need to be prudent, but I think that if AI goes rogue we are still collectively smart enough to counter it and reign it in, at least for starters. And we also get more empowered by our tools. We could build an anti-rogue AI to keep AI's in check. I think it's more possible that AI's might fight other AI's in the future, so we might see a robot war more than a war against us humans. But I try to keep an open mind. Terminator is great entertainment, but it's for starters just a story, not a definite plausible reality right here and now or in the near future.

 

[billslugg]

I recently watched an AI generated old grandmother type tie up a scammer for an hour. The guy finally exploded in anger at her subterfuge. The maker of the video showed a Zoom screen with hundreds of such ladies tying up scammers.