Blue Flowers of Mars

[extrasense]

These flowers seem to be too beautiful, for anybody to think they are rocks!<br />http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mycommon/2p111-2P136234439EFF3600P2401L5M1-hairy-berry-1-color2.jpg<br /><br />UPDATE: The size of larger flower is about 10 cm <br /><br />

 

[bobvanx]

LOL<br /><br /><sigh />

 

[spacechump]

First off those rocks are not blue. They are more gray. You are misinterpreting the fact that each color filter is saturated during exposure. You are not adjusting for this at all.<br /><br />Second. I know you do this on every science forum. I've seen you do it. And each forum laughs you away never to return. Please take your warpped sense of imagination elsewhere because folks here truly know what they are talking about and you will come away feeling very stupid for thinking rocks are not rocks. Don't say I didn't warn you.

 

[extrasense]

<<<those rocks are not blue. They are more gray>><br /><br />Do I need to comment? <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" />

 

[odysseus145]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p> <<<those rocks are not blue. They are more gray>><br /><br />Do I need to comment? <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />The pictures taken by the mars rovers are not in color. They are taken in greyscale, and they are then run through a series of filters to convert them into color images. However, getting the filters just right can be very difficult, so some of the images do not appear the same as they would to your eyes. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[extrasense]

>>They are taken in greyscale, and they are then run through a series of filters to convert them into color images.>><br />The colors in the Flower image were automatically generated by software at <br />http://mars.gh.wh.uni-dortmund.de/mer<br />Colors might be not perfect, but it is propostrous to suggest that the colors rendition is totally wrong.<br /><br />

 

[odysseus145]

I never said the colors were totally wrong. I said the colors are not exactly as how they would appear to your eyes. Just a little too much of one color can make it look very different.<br /><br />Here is a good discription. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[spacechump]

Due to color satuiation with each filter exposure (and this is true with every ultraviolet and infrared filter as well), the amount of true green and blue need to be reduced at account for the filtered sunlight from the atmosphere.<br /><br />See extra, you've done this at a lot of place. The trouble is that all those places, including here, are full of folks that don't follow blindly the speakings of an obviously delusional individual as yourself. There was one other individual like you that I remember. And all he could do, instead of giving any evidence, was insult people harshly.<br /><br />Your image should really look more like this:<br /><br />

 

[extrasense]

Get a clue, you are not smarter than Dortmund University. Anyway, these are flowers, and for the color I rather rely on them than on your opinion, which has not yet been right on anything <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br />

 

[odysseus145]

extrasense, If these are flowers than why do they look so much like the rocks in other pictures? Mars is covered in rocks like this. Just look at the Pathfinder and Viking images. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[mooware]

They look like rocks to me. I'll be they look like rocks to the NASA team too.

 

[extrasense]

<<If these are flowers than why do they look so much like the rocks in other pictures?>><br />I suppose you are prepared to point out one of the similar flowers on any of other 40,000 pictures from Mars rovers? <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />

 

[odysseus145]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>I suppose you are prepared to point out one of the similar flowers on any of other 40,000 pictures from Mars rovers?<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br />I will not search through 40,000 pictures to find rocks that look like flowers. Just because this rock bares a remote resemblence to a flower, it does not make it a flower. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[extrasense]

<<Just because this rock bares a remote resemblence to a flower, it does not make it a flower. >><br /><br />Pretty "rocks" happen on Earth, but not that pretty.<br />Find me a picture of an Earth rock, that would be in the same class with these beauties. Anyone !<br /><br /><br /><br />

 

[redwhitearcher]

It doesn't look like a flower too me... it looks like a... STATUE! Yes thats it!!!

 

[spacechump]

<i>Find me a picture of an Earth rock, that would be in the same class with these beauties. Anyone ! </i><br /><br />Oh, I don't know. I think this one is much neater than your plain old rock.<br /><br />http://geology.about.com/library/bl/images/blhoodoorock.htm<br /><br />and of course these<br /><br />http://www.minerals.net/mineral/silicate/tecto/quartz/varietys/geodes.htm

 

[extrasense]

We obviously do not talk about artist created jewelry, or things like that. The natural rock would do. <br />So, try again <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />

 

[odysseus145]

Here (german site, but good pictures) <br />Lion Jaw Rock <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[spacechump]

None of those are manmade...strictly natural.<br /><br />How old are you anyhow? You can't be more than 13.

 

[extrasense]

Here is the comparison view:<br />http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mycommon/Mars-Flower--Cristal.jpg<br />Your color preferences aside, which one is prettier?<br />Remember also, that no cristals were found on Mars yet.<br />

 

[spacechump]

<i>which one is prettier?</i><br /><br />Gee...let me see. A gray rock.....or a bright beautiful pinkish crystal.<br /><br />Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...I will admit that. But when someone neglects science for opinion (I'm thinking of you extra) at that point you're just insane to me.

 

[odysseus145]

Well, I would have to say the crystal. After all, the other choice is, my Martian standards, an ordinary rock. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[extrasense]

<<I would have to say the crystal.>><br />See, you are infatuated with color and light.<br />The color is irrelevant, for the decision is it flower or not.<br />The light and picture quality is better with the crystal - after all that picture was taken in normal studio conditions, focusing on the object, which probably has been cleaned - while the Flower shot is a part of large picture made in field conditions with natural light.<br />Here is slightly more fair comparison, I've modified colors on the crystal picture:<br />http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mycommon/Mars-Flower--Cristal-mod.jpg<br />The answer is: the flower is infinitely more beautiful.<br />

 

[odysseus145]

extrasense, on your other thread, you said the "flower" did not shadow itself. Look carefully at the top left of the "flower" and you wil see a shadow. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[extrasense]

<<Look carefully at the top left of the "flower" and you wil see a shadow. >><br /><br />Here is the 3D rendition of the said flower. ( You need 3D glasses to see in stereo)<br />http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mycommon/Mars-Flower-stereo1.jpg<br />You can see that the flower hangs on its stalk, head down. The shadow of the stalk is seen, but not the self-shadow of the flower.<br /><br />ES<br />