# QuestionDoes Time exist and if not what really is Time Dilation?

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#### IG2007

##### "Don't criticize what you can't understand..."
IG, "IMHO Time exists for us, as an intrinsic part of our sensory perception systems."

How would you complete it?

Cat
And for other particles, as a dimension.

Catastrophe

#### Catastrophe

##### "There never was a good war, or a bad peace."
IG, OK, I'm OK with that. Cat

IG2007

#### Atlan0101

Random thoughts:

Were the muons under observation in a closed system (such as the Large Hadron Collider) or an open system (such as outer space)? Closed system or open system makes all the difference in the world.
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There's no such thing as the straight arrow of time and it never should be drawn in its dimension (1-dimensionality) as anything but a curve. I've illustrated that curvature in universe with the traveler traveling faster and faster into time-verse's observable curvature. The time-verse curvature ahead of the traveler the universe traveler is traveling into (future) being counter-clock-wise to the time-verse curvature behind the traveler the universe traveler is traveling into (past). A vortex. The traveler can never travel faster and faster into a straight line of travel if the traveler is intent upon any specific destination. If the traveler knows where the destination is in the unobservable universe, not in the curve, the traveler can shortcut the time-verse curvature, skipping the observable universe, which is pretty much the same thing as wormholing, or warping, space and time.
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Particle-wave duality is essentially 3d-2d duality. As Einstein said, "It takes three dimensions to describe a point". Not so many to describe a wave. A traveling light-wave hologram, inexorably recessionary in the time-verse even as it is just as inexorably processionary in the space-verse, is a single-sided 2-dimensional frame-front. If it had even one more side to it, it would fry the universe. And since it has no back side, and non-front / non-back, sides are nothing but 1-dimensional strings, it can't be observed, much less caught, from the rear. It is more or less an open corridor from the rear in which any one passing through would have to look back to observe the time receding into the past behind. Of course I'm talking open system travel, not a particle existing in a closed system such as the LHC, or inside the traveler's ship's drive.
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There are observers (real time), then there are imaginary observers (relative time). No one, including no physicist, I've read adds time to an observation concerning any clock to make up for the slowness of the speed of light. Synchronized clocks ten light seconds apart will be ten seconds off time regarding each other. In other words, two imaginary time clocks (relative time clocks) will exist additional to the two real time synchronized clocks. Velocity difference, momentum difference, alluding to the principle of certainty, is equivalent to difference in distance between clocks. There is geometric progression, or geometric regression, when dealing with light and the speed of light. What you observe is not what is on the other end. The math, and observations supposedly backing up the math, says that is not a true statement. It says the observer is always observing the physical entity under observer, which is a lie. There is an absolute difference between real time entity and relative time entity, and to some degree that difference between the real time and relative time can be calculated in the difference between real time clock and light's imaginary clock in hologram. If supposedly synchronized and a ten second difference is observed, ten seconds has passed unobserved for the real time clock, the real time entity, in the unobserved real time universe. Even the sun is eight minutes out front (time-verse-wise in the future) of its observation from Earth. Anything traveling toward the sun from Earth has to make up that eight minute difference, additional to its travel time (that eight minute difference in real [[simultaneous]] time for sun and Earth is one real reason nothing can travel faster than the speed of light, since it is never in any direction of time's verse but past > future). Is any of this in the math or in the pages from physicists? Not that I've read anywhere at all. And I've done a lot of reading regarding light and time and relativity. It means there is a big problem with relativity when physicists describe exactly the same physics for the real time traveler beyond the light as for the traveler observed in light's hologram (the only traveler (the imaginary traveler) any observer will ever observe).

#### Atlan0101

You have a space-time coordinate 0-point in space. From six directions of a sphere you have light intersecting this coordinate point crossroad (just one of infinities of infinities of such coordinate 0-point crossroads in an infinity of paralleling universes broad and deep in the Universe (U) (Multiverse). Six holographic corridors (timed-verse streams of single-sided 2-dimensional frame holograms) passing through the one point crossroad going in six different directions all at once. Not a clash. Not a bit of interference, as if nothing at all is happening at the crossroad. As if nothing whatsoever is there at the crossroad despite the big crunch of holograms into and through this one crossroad of infinities of such. Again, as if nothing whatsoever is happening at the crossroad. As if nothing whatsoever is at the crossroad. Just a hole in space, a void, a vacuum.

But let something in any way different come to the crossroad, it interferes with what was non-interference.

At every uninterfered-with crossroad point light fronts pass right through opposed light fronts without a single bit of interference, as if the exactly opposed stream of oncoming light front holography wasn't / isn't even there. As if the opposed light front it is streaming straight into and through, crossing at every point (a stream streaming right back into it, too) was / is on some other plane of a hyperplane space, or is existing in some other point of time, regardless of what seems to be the case (a case of same space, same time). A crunch, a friction, in which there is no crunch or friction... massless and seemingly energyless void until otherwise interfered with (only then, in that interference, revealing any existence of mass, energy, space, and time).

#### Lariliss

Time exists in observations, equations, theories and laws. It is a part of apparatus that we currently have working best for the Universe understanding.
Time dilation is determined by an observer and perceived as a human.

Catastrophe