If we had built a mars transfer vehicle instead of ISS....

[killium]

a crew would be en-route now.... I hope the&nbsp;shuttle's successor will do just that.... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[DrRocket]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>a crew would be en-route now.... I hope the&nbsp;shuttle's successor will do just that.... <br />Posted by killium</DIV></p><p>If frogs had wings,,,</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[brandbll]

Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>If frogs had wings,,, <br />Posted by DrRocket</DIV><br /><br />Pfft, if we took all the money wasted on that floating lemon, the ISS, we could have genetically created frogs with wings... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font size="3">You wanna talk some jive? I'll talk some jive. I'll talk some jive like you've never heard!</font></p> </div>

 

[silylene old]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Pfft, if we took all the money wasted on that floating lemon, the ISS, we could have genetically created frogs with wings... <br />Posted by brandbll</DIV><br /><br />Well, if we can grow mice with human ears, a frog with wings shouldn't be too hard.</p><p><br /><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/0/7/8072e57b-e8dd-4063-b75a-9c724748a2f5.Medium.jpg" alt="" /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature" align="center"><em><font color="#0000ff">- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -</font></em> </div><div class="Discussion_UserSignature" align="center"><font color="#0000ff"><em>I really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function.</em></font> </div> </div>

 

[Carrickagh]

<p>Just can't agree with that. In fact, one of the reasons the "Mars Underground" movement started (think of it as the Direct 2.0 of the early 1980s) was due to the fact that there was no support politically and therefore no support within NASA to go to&nbsp;Mars.&nbsp;In fact, during an ad-hoc Congressional budgetary meeting in the mid-70's the specter of the Soviets going to Mars was raised and one senator quipped: "Let the Reds have the Red Planet."</p><p>Indeed, the ISS (once called Freedom) had support via the Reagan administration, but it was based on 2 things: the Shuttle's "success" (as of 1984) and the Russian Salyut series and the upcoming Mir. Once Challenger occurred Space Station Freedom was rapidly rescaled to Space Station Fred, and STS has limped along since.</p><p>I can't see anyone choosing Mars transfer at that time or this. And outside of ISS being sold as a place for STS to go, I can't even see why it exists.</p><p>Lots of money, no direction. And no Mars, sorry.<br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[Bytor_YYZ]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Just can't agree with that. In fact, one of the reasons the "Mars Underground" movement started (think of it as the Direct 2.0 of the early 1980s) was due to the fact that there was no support politically and therefore no support within NASA to go to&nbsp;Mars.&nbsp;In fact, during an ad-hoc Congressional budgetary meeting in the mid-70's the specter of the Soviets going to Mars was raised and one senator quipped: "Let the Reds have the Red Planet."Indeed, the ISS (once called Freedom) had support via the Reagan administration, but it was based on 2 things: the Shuttle's "success" (as of 1984) and the Russian Salyut series and the upcoming Mir. Once Challenger occurred Space Station Freedom was rapidly rescaled to Space Station Fred, and STS has limped along since.I can't see anyone choosing Mars transfer at that time or this. And outside of ISS being sold as a place for STS to go, I can't even see why it exists.Lots of money, no direction. And no Mars, sorry. <br /> Posted by Carrickagh</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Freedom had nothing to do with the Russian's. &nbsp; </p>