In the event of a death on the ISS

[vogon13]

New meaning to the phrase "Spam in the can".<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/tongue.gif" /><br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#ff0000"><strong>TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#339966"><strong>So many people, so few recipes !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#0000ff"><strong>Let's clean up this stinkhole !!</strong></font> </p> </div>

 

[henryhallam]

That is a really distasteful thing to say.

 

[earth_bound_misfit]

It went straight over my head! Must be an American thing. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p> </p><p>----------------------------------------------------------------- </p><p>Wanna see this site looking like the old SDC uplink?</p><p>Go here to see how: <strong>SDC Eye saver </strong>  </p> </div>

 

[vogon13]

Actually, it is a south seas kind of thing . . . . <br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/tongue.gif" /><br /><br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#ff0000"><strong>TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#339966"><strong>So many people, so few recipes !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#0000ff"><strong>Let's clean up this stinkhole !!</strong></font> </p> </div>

 

[CalliArcale]

For those puzzled by the joke, "long pork" is a euphemism for human flesh. Many south seas islanders were reputed to be cannibals, and enjoyed "long pork". The story goes that the only thing that would persuade them to abolish the practise was something that tasted just as good -- actual pork. Ham is still very popular in Polynesia, Hawaii, and other Pacific islands. But with no refrigeration, the only way to get ham for a long time was to keep live pigs. Obviously one cannot have ham every day, then. That all changed around WWII when US soldiers introduced a canned meat product from Austin, Minnesota: Spam. It's processed spiced ham, and although refrigeration is now readily available on many of those islands (but not all of them), Spam remains extremely popular.<br /><br />Whether or not this really has anything to do with "long pork" is a matter of some historical debate, since many of the early accounts of these islands were made by people who had something to gain by painting the natives as savages. Still, there is at least some truth to the headhunter tales. It's just hard to know where fact ends and fiction begins. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[CalliArcale]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>doesn't it take two people to fly the soyuz back down?<br />ISS has only two permanent crew members. <p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />Strictly speaking, it doesn't take anybody to fly the Soyuz back down. They might like having somebody to steer it away from the ISS, but I believe it can do the entire thing by itself (or from the ground) in a pinch.<br /><br />In fact, there was one Soyuz that made almost the entire flight unpiloted. The ill-fated Soyuz 11 was successfully undocked from Salyut 1 by its crew. Tragically, a pressure equalization valve opened at this time, perhaps jostled by the undocking. The crew died quickly -- after autopsy and telemetry analysis, the estimate was less than half a minute, mainly due to massive hemmorhaging following embolism (think of it as an extreme case of the bends). The vehicle's internal systems nevertheless brought it home correctly right on schedule and right on target. This is the positive upshot of the Russian obsession with automation in their manned spacecraft; in a pinch, a complete amateur or a horribly crippled pilot can probably get home safely in one of them, although for obvious reasons they do prefer having a trained pilot or two in case something goes wrong. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[tomnackid]

I assume they would want the body back for an autopsy, but I wouldn't want to be the poor guy having to fly home in a cramped Soyuz with a dead body!

 

[norm103]

can some one give me the size of insid the souzy as i have been haveing to explan this to alot of her frinds now.

 

[llivinglarge]

Would the body fit in the Soyuz cargo compartment?<br /><br />(BTW, wouldn't this make Soyuz a Space Hearse?)

 

[rogers_buck]

>> but I wouldn't want to be the poor guy having to fly home in a cramped Soyuz with a dead body! <br /><br />I dunno, it's just carrion luggage...<br />

 

[skyone]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>"Would the body fit in the Soyuz cargo compartment?" <br /><br />There is no Soyuz cargo compartment. The orbital module could be used for that purpose going up but that orbital compartment burns up on the way down. <p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />Crew compartment then? Rigor mortis will lock muscles in whatever position they were in at the time of death...

 

[skyone]

might make for a tight fit

 

[erioladastra]

<br />A lot depends on what is the cause but the contigency procedures are pretty much what you would expect. We would first do whatever it takes to make sure the rest of the crew is safe. Then we would make sure the ISS is safe. No one would be jettisoned. As soon as things are safed, the crew would return.

 

[lampblack]

<font color="yellow">I dunno, it's just carrion luggage... </font><br /><br />*groan* <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#0000ff"><strong>Just tell the truth and let the chips fall...</strong></font> </div>

 

[nacnud]

Argh it's a zombie *flees*

 

[CalliArcale]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>Rigor mortis will lock muscles in whatever position they were in at the time of death...<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />Actually, rigor mortis is not a permanent condition. If the body has been dead long enough, it becomes flexible again. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[rocketman5000]

Rigor only lasts for a little while afterwhich the muscles start to relax. Could make for an uncomfortable wait on the ISS though. Also would a body develop rigor in space?

 

[skyone]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>Rigor only lasts for a little while afterwhich the muscles start to relax. Could make for an uncomfortable wait on the ISS though. <p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br />Rigor mortis stops as a consequence of <i>decay</i>. That wait is around 36 hours.

 

[vogon13]

Within 2 hours of death, e. coli and other nasties from the intestinal tract will already be busy in the decedants heart starting decomposition of the body from the inside out.<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#ff0000"><strong>TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#339966"><strong>So many people, so few recipes !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#0000ff"><strong>Let's clean up this stinkhole !!</strong></font> </p> </div>