Interesting Looking Star Trek Book

[drwayne]

I have gotten to really like reading books on my Palm Tungsten T5. Anyway, was looking at books tonight, and this one sounded - well, *fascinating*<br /><br />http://ebooks.palm.com/product/detail/22769?book=Star_Trek_:_Crucible:_McCoy:_Provenance_of_Shadows <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>"1) Give no quarter; 2) Take no prisoners; 3) Sink everything."  Admiral Jackie Fisher</p> </div>

 

[drwayne]

I guess I have a fascination for stories that involve the Guardian of Forever...<br /><br />Wayne <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>"1) Give no quarter; 2) Take no prisoners; 3) Sink everything."  Admiral Jackie Fisher</p> </div>

 

[lampblack]

Ever see Harlan Ellison's book about the making of "City on the Edge of Forever"? Here's the Amazon link:<br />http://www.amazon.com/Harlan-Ellisons-City-Edge-Forever/dp/1565049640/sr=8-1/qid=1157216402/ref=sr_1_1/104-7172813-9639938?ie=UTF8&s=books<br /><br />It includes his original script, which Ellison claims that Roddenberry and crew trashed. Instead of McCoy getting an accidental injection, it had a Star Feet officer being driven insane by an illegal addiction.<br /><br />Ellison's book also has lots of nanny-nanny-boo-boo kinds of details -- including an account of Shatner counting his lines to ensure that he had more than Nimoy. It's fun to read, although Ellison's unrelenting griping gets sort of tiresome at times.<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#0000ff"><strong>Just tell the truth and let the chips fall...</strong></font> </div>

 

[drwayne]

The Guardian is an interesting device - I have read a couple of books that made interesting use of it.<br /><br />Ellison seems to gripe a lot, he is somewhat a cumudgeon it seems.<br /><br />Wayne <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>"1) Give no quarter; 2) Take no prisoners; 3) Sink everything."  Admiral Jackie Fisher</p> </div>

 

[yevaud]

Once referred to as the "Enfant Terrible'" of the SF world. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[lampblack]

It surprises me, really, that nobody's ever declared intergalactic war over control of the Guardian's home planet.<br /><br />Just think what the Ferrengi could do with the stock market, for instance, if one of them arranged to step back into the past with a couple of centuries' worth of market data in hand. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#0000ff"><strong>Just tell the truth and let the chips fall...</strong></font> </div>

 

[lampblack]

Yep... Ellison does seem to have that reputation. But a lot of what he says in the book is simply hilarious.<br /><br />Gotta say, though, that whatever happened with the script, "City on the Edge of Forever" still ranks as one of the finer episodes in all of Trekdom. Heck, the script was good enough to inspire Shatner to exhibit actual <i>emotion</i> during the performance. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#0000ff"><strong>Just tell the truth and let the chips fall...</strong></font> </div>

 

[yevaud]

True that.<br /><br />Remember a brief and then cancelled series in the eraly 70's called "The Starlost?" A generation ship of seperate and isolated culture, ignorant of their actual circumstances; a ship without a crew. A couple and an adversary who escape their own isolated binome, and get into the ship proper.<br /><br />Harlan Ellison wrote it, and then Hollywood went to town. Ellison was so incensed, he had his name on the credits altered to "Cordwainer Bird," which has become a sort of in-joke in the SF world. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[lampblack]

Nope, I'm not familiar with it -- I wonder if copies are available anywhere?<br /><br />However high-maintenance and finicky he may have been, Ellison is a fine, fine writer. One of my favorite short stories of all time is -- and forever shall be -- "Repent, Harlequin! Said the Tick-Tock Man."<br /><br />I remember reading somewhere that Ellison dropped out of college -- something about having gotten into a fistfight with one of his teachers. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#0000ff"><strong>Just tell the truth and let the chips fall...</strong></font> </div>

 

[yevaud]

"I Have No Mouth Yet I Must Scream," and "A Boy And His Dog" (movie starring a juvenile Don Johnson) are my favorites. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[drwayne]

The Gaurdian is supposed to be a big secret.<br /><br />I read fascinating book 8 or so years ago about a race of dinosauroids who go back through the guardian, and keep the collision that wiped out species on Earth from happening, to avoid man's evolution.<br /><br />The Enterprise (no A, B, C, D or E) under Kirk just so happened to be doing some experiments with warp shielding, and ended up in this universe in which man never appeared...fascinating book.<br /><br />Wayne <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>"1) Give no quarter; 2) Take no prisoners; 3) Sink everything."  Admiral Jackie Fisher</p> </div>

 

[yevaud]

I read that. Very well done. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[hracctsold]

Wayne,<br />What was the name of that Guardian book about the dinos and Kirk. Never heard of it.<br /><br />Speaking about the "donut ring thing" as Q said in one of his debates with Spock in "Spock vs. Q", I & II. He said of it, been there, done that, got the T-shirt. Both of those book tapes are funny to listen to, if you have not heard of them.<br /><br />Henry

 

[mattblack]

That was "First Frontier" written by Diane Carey, one of the best Trek writers. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>One Percent of Federal Funding For Space: America <strong><em><u>CAN</u></em></strong> Afford it!!  LEO is a <strong><em>Prison</em></strong> -- It's time for a <em><strong>JAILBREAK</strong></em>!!</p> </div>

 

[hracctsold]

Will have to look that up. I agree with the assessment of Diane Carey. Another author that is really good is Peter David, He has wrote both ST and Star Wars books.

 

[mattblack]

Oh, I LOVE Peter David. Along with Terry Pratchett he's one of the few authors who can make me laugh out loud!! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>One Percent of Federal Funding For Space: America <strong><em><u>CAN</u></em></strong> Afford it!!  LEO is a <strong><em>Prison</em></strong> -- It's time for a <em><strong>JAILBREAK</strong></em>!!</p> </div>

 

[drwayne]

I have enjoyed reading her stuff since I first read "Dreadnaught" - which was, again, a book that I picked up because of a concept that fascinated me - in that case, the Dreadnaught - which was mentioned in the Star Trek Technical manual many years ago.<br /><br />Wayne <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>"1) Give no quarter; 2) Take no prisoners; 3) Sink everything."  Admiral Jackie Fisher</p> </div>