Is Einstein Untouchable?

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jatslo

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I know more than what you think I do, but that is okay. I would rather discuss Chromo-Dynamics, as opposed to being confined to Quantum, because one unify theorem requires the quantification of everything, and the only way I/we can achieve this task is through speed and/or velocity. We are talking about a infinite rainbow of colors, and you can call them whatever you want; however, I seriously doubt that the fragments are symmetrical.<br /><br />I opened a Chromo-Dynamics thread month ago, so maybe we should take our business there instead, or we can break Albert Einstein with quantum right here and right now. That old thread already served its purpose, but since I am currently working vacuums at the moment, maybe a little revisit my help me work out some bugs. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /><br /><br />I have an interesting experiment that involves the velocity three objects on my mind.<br /><br />Anyway here is the link, if you want to work: <<a target="_blank" href=http://uplink.space.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=sciastro&Number=188582&page=&view=&sb=&o=&fpart=11&vc=1>LINK>. I opened this thread because I did not like the current electromagnetic color spectrum, because I suspected that it might have finite colors; CalliArcale finally came out and said infinite. You see: ultra and infra are invisible, but the colors in those sectors or vectors are infinite, i.e. ultra-red, ultra-blue, ultra-green and visa versa for infra. Infra peak is black and ultra peak is white. Chromo-Dynamics. <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" />
 
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well, quarks are hypothetical, except for the entire "observation" of particles that fit the bill remarkably well in particle accelerator experiments.<br /><br />And as for Helium being at the core of everything...You <i>might</i> have a leg to stand on if you said hydrogen, since that's just a single proton and a single electron.<br /><br />Otherwise...I don't think so. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p align="center"><font color="#c0c0c0"><br /></font></p><p align="center"><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">----</font></em></font><font color="#666699">SaiphMOD@gmail.com </font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">-------------------</font></em></font></p><p><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">"This is my Timey Wimey Detector.  Goes "bing" when there's stuff.  It also fries eggs at 30 paces, wether you want it to or not actually.  I've learned to stay away from hens: It's not pretty when they blow" -- </font></em></font><font size="1" color="#999999">The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>
 
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emperor_of_localgroup

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I dont think (anyone can correct me here) we have been able to convert mass into energy (using E=mc<sup>2</sup>) or energy into mass so far. In fission and fusion it is the binding energy that is released, in what process does a portion of the mass turn into binding energy? I dont think anyone knows that yet.<br /><br />That is a very good question you presented, do the quarks follow E=mc<sup>2</sup>? Is any energy released when bombardments generates quarks? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="2" color="#ff0000"><strong>Earth is Boring</strong></font> </div>
 
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@DanIKo:<br />Believe or not, I think I have understood your points. This is one thing I have had in my mind for sometime. Given the chemical ingredients and sufficient time (billions of years), anything can happen, such as lifeforms on this planet. You just gave this idea some quantum flavor. <br /><br /><font size="4">If many-many experiments are conducted with this quantum state all of the outcomes will happen. </font><br />You are saying the event with the lowest probability has occurred on the earth (formation of life) because probability of all events become equal if experiments are conducted many many times (or allow sufficient amount of time). It did happen but I dont know if QM theorists will agree with this explanation.<br /><br />But then again why didn't life start on other planets? How can we explain the probability of quantum states on other planets? <br /><br />Here is a different thing that has some legs. If someone knows the way a computer executes a program on CPU level, he will clearly identify the universe as a pre-programmed computer. It does not need any external intervention. Just something to ponder about. <br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="2" color="#ff0000"><strong>Earth is Boring</strong></font> </div>
 
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@J_rankin:<br /><font size="4">Think of the well-known example of relativity with the elastic fabric of space</font><br />Anyone can correct me here, I think that elastic fabric drawings we see with general relativy are for visual purposes only. They do not exist. Just as we draw arrows to indicate electric fields around a charge or magnetic fields around a magnet. <br /><br />But your conclusion is n't totally off the base, in my opinion. There is something in the space, otherwise 'inverse square laws' for gravitation and electric fields wouldn't exist. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="2" color="#ff0000"><strong>Earth is Boring</strong></font> </div>
 
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I was going to take a long time to end up with the big bang but let me try the short route. I see blackholes reassembling matter into new states of matter due to gravity overcoming the strong force. At the point of a blackhole it has overcome all forces. Both Gravity and the weak force strengthen on the square (some fudging but minscule) as mass increases and spacetime curvature increases. Matter can't exist in its structured and crystaline form due to the intense pressures. Arrange anything in a coherent stable form and put it under pressure to where the forces which dictate the arrangement no longer make sense and it will rearrange/reassemble and find the most efficient form for that energy state. At blackhole energies there is a rearrangement of matter to conform to the rules of physics that apply at that level. There may be additional levels before we get to THE SINGULARITY or progenitor of the big bang. And this is where I wonder if E=MC^2 since we have the big bang and very shortly thereafter we have INFLATION. I had if figgered out very neatly that matter did not exceed the speed of light and that the unfurling of spacetime only made it appear to do so reasoning that matter had an affinity for its own spacetime coordinates and retained that info even in the singularity. Inflation brings into question the validity of E=MC^2 but I think only at that energy state!
 
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<font color="yellow">And as for Helium being at the core of everything...You might have a leg to stand on if you said hydrogen, since that's just a single proton and a single electron.</font>Well, I am making a educated guess that there is helium of some type at the core of everything, and yes, even hydrogen. Maybe when we get some better detectors, we will be able to see it some day. In addition, I am aware that quark stuff is being categorized. What type of accelerator are you working with?
 
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I like the fabric in space, as in "ether", because I do not think that space-time is warped. Light seems warped because it follows the path of least resistance. A perfect vacuum, or a substance that can act like a perfect vacuum will allow light to reach its full speed or velocity depending on how you look at it.
 
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Good post. No suggestions of the poster's ignorance. Just the facts. Well done. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="3" color="#ff9900"><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>------------------------------------------------------------------- </em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>"I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions, indeed, generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions as not to discourage them too much. It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government."</em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong>Thomas Jefferson</strong></font></p></font> </div>
 
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chew_on_this

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There's hope for him at last! Humility is a wonderful thing.
 
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nojocujo

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assuming just for a second that when matter aggregates it also aggregates spacetime making it more curved.......GR<br />Einstein came up with Lambda as a result of Hubbles findings that a cosmological redshift indicated that the universe was expanding and to show a flat universe. If the universe were contracting and there was a continuing consumption of spacetime thereby flattening it and additionally creating a general cosmological redshift intrinsic to the consumption. The contraction due to consumptiontion and resulting redshift would make every point in the universe relative to itself appear to be the center of the universe. Indicating that Einstein may have been righter the first time........first guess is best! :)<br />(olde addage) If it is simple it is beautiful and it is probably right! <br />If Einstein were right the first time and the redshift is attributable to a contracting cosmic spacetime due to a localized consumption of spacetime by matter (blackholes having the largest appetites) on a cosmic scale then dark energy would just disappear.
 
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