Just a fraction of the hydrogen hidden beneath Earth's surface could power Earth for 200 years, scientists find [clone]

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A newly-deployed satellite has created the most-detailed map yet of the ocean floor, finding hundreds of hills and underwater volcanoes that were previously missed.

Just a fraction of the hydrogen hidden beneath Earth's surface could power Earth for 200 years, scientists find [clone] : Read more

 

[Unclear Engineer]

The title of this article seems totally disconnected from the article text.

Working with the actual text, the article is really about the satellite data on the level variations of the ocean surface. From that data, there is a lot of inference made about level variations in the ocean floor. But, there is also acknowledgement that the surface level variation is influenced by currents. I would add that it is also influenced by variations in prevailing winds.

So, it is not clear what degree of certainty is provided by this data set for the inferences of the bottom contours. I suspect it is not very certain, and would best be thought of as a reason to go to some places to do actual soundings.

That said, looking at the data for the ocean surface that has a direct influence on the water levels where I live, I noted a lot of red, which means elevated ocean water surface. That seems to be associated with the Gulf Stream, so is not unexpected.

However, by looking at the actual data on water levels where I live, it is clear that more than local winds play a substantial role in the net level. I have long suspected that the variations in the off shore ocean surface are important to the net level here. The Gulf Stream has a lot of eddies and swirls. The resulting motions in different directions should affect the water surface level from the east side of the Stream to the west side due to the Coriolis Effect. So, as the eddies and swirls go by (on a many month time period) the net level of the ocean on the coast here should change by some amount.

I would be interested in seeing a graphic of the sea level off the east coast of the U.S. over a time period of approximately 3 years, to see if I can correlate the effects I have seen here with eddies in the Gulf Stream.

BTW, this article does not even mention hydrogen.

 

[skel]

The title of this article seems totally disconnected from the article text.

Working with the actual text, the article is really about the satellite data on the level variations of the ocean surface. From that data, there is a lot of inference made about level variations in the ocean floor. But, there is also acknowledgement that the surface level variation is influenced by currents. I would add that it is also influenced by variations in prevailing winds.

So, it is not clear what degree of certainty is provided by this data set for the inferences of the bottom contours. I suspect it is not very certain, and would best be thought of as a reason to go to some places to do actual soundings.

That said, looking at the data for the ocean surface that has a direct influence on the water levels where I live, I noted a lot of red, which means elevated ocean water surface. That seems to be associated with the Gulf Stream, so is not unexpected.

However, by looking at the actual data on water levels where I live, it is clear that more than local winds play a substantial role in the net level. I have long suspected that the variations in the off shore ocean surface are important to the net level here. The Gulf Stream has a lot of eddies and swirls. The resulting motions in different directions should affect the water surface level from the east side of the Stream to the west side due to the Coriolis Effect. So, as the eddies and swirls go by (on a many month time period) the net level of the ocean on the coast here should change by some amount.

I would be interested in seeing a graphic of the sea level off the east coast of the U.S. over a time period of approximately 3 years, to see if I can correlate the effects I have seen here with eddies in the Gulf Stream.

BTW, this article does not even mention hydrogen.

I was suspicious when the title had [clone] in the text. I searched the web using some of the text in the article and it revealed many copies of the same article. This is just a copied and reposted article. I will be blocking space.com from this point on. By the way, the title in one of the articles this text was taken from made more sense "Satellites reveal stunningly detailed maps of Earth’s seafloors – December 13, 2024"

 

[Unclear Engineer]

I am getting suspicious that the "editors" of Space.com are now some sort of AI algorithm instead of real people with common sense.

That is becoming a major issue with science journals. For instance, see https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/12/journal-editors-resign-to-protest-ai-use-high-fees-and-more/ . The linked article says that is the 20th mass editorial resignation from science journals since 2023!

It also says:
"AI processing continues to be used and regularly reformats submitted manuscripts to change meaning and formatting and require extensive author and editor oversight during proof stage.”

Apparently, copy editors are the first positions being eliminated by publishers, and those are the ones who are responsible for catching such errors.

As the publishing business gets to be more and more driven by the goal of making profits for investors instead of providing professional level communication for scientists and engineers, I think we will be seeing not just more such errors, but also a steady decline in the competence and credibility of the articles and a steady increase in the "click bait" nature of the headlines.

As the linked article states, these departures are starting to move past the mass protest stage, with some efforts now going into "establishing new independent nonprofit journals for the academic community that are open access and have high academic standards."

Sad, but I think most of the journals previously considered to be the "gold standards" are already doomed at this point. It will be interesting to see if Internet-based non-profit replacements can actually achieve "high academic standards". It will require a lot of hands-on work by real people with motivation to achieve that scientific excellence.

That may turn out to require a lot of dedicated volunteerism to achieve. From what I was told, the moderators here on Space.com are already volunteers. And, some of the other subject focused forums I use are completely run by volunteers, with someone who has the funds and the will paying for the Internet web hosting overhead costs.

 

[Classical Motion]

It's gonna get lots worse.

Can A.I. say that? I wonder if A.I. could imitate me?

If A.I. is now running some of these sites, then A.I. might be commenting too.

 

[COLGeek]

AI certainly does post on internet forums via bots. We occasionally catch and remove them. Not unusual at all.