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onesimple

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Moon/globe system pushes itself away from the curved track of the sun. It can be considered to be like a giant planet whose surface the other side of the moon is.<br /><br />This "giant planet" rotates around its axle. This way the other side of the moon is sometimes towards the sun and sometimes away from the sun. Sometimes the moon pushes itself faster away from the sun. At the same time <br />energywaves opening up from the globe push the moon away from the globe. That`s why the moon passes the globe in a curved track.<br /><br />When the moon is proportionally as far away from the sun as possible, an enormeus pressure from the sun is directed to the globe and the globe begins to reach upthe moon at the same time as they push themselves away from the sun. This way the globe passes the moon and so on.<br /><br />Apparently this side of the moon that is towards the sun, is thicker and heavier than the other side. The moon keeps its heavier side towards the globe (towards the bottom of the energysea opening up from the globe) at the <br />same time it pushes itself away from the globe in a "energysea" opening up from the globe.<br /><br />The largest amount of energy commits to the moon when the moon is in an area between the globge and the sun.<br />When this energy is released away from the moon it makes the moon to head towards the globe. Surely the moon pushes itself away from the globe at the same respect as the moon and the globe expand.<br /><br />In an area between the atomcores of the globe and the moon the neutrinos coming from the sun push themselves through the globe and the moon. Also these neutrinos expand and open up energywaves by which they move their <br />kinetic energy towards the atoms of the globe, atom by atom. But the question is : Are there similar energybundles opening up from the globe towards the moon and do they penetrate the moon and move their kinetic energy to the moon, atom by atom? <br /><br />Savorinen<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/smile.gif"></img>
 
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MannyPim

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huh ???<br /><br />I wish I could figure out what you are saying... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="2" color="#0000ff"><em>The only way to know what is possible is to attempt the impossible.</em></font> </div>
 
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SpeedFreek

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He's proposing a new explanation of why moons orbit planets that orbit stars, an alternative to gravity, only a far more complex alternative that requires the mass of the moon to be concentrated on one side.<br /><br />How this model copes with the other planets and moons in our solar system I don't know, because unlike our own moon, a lot of others actually rotate more than once per orbit.<br /><br />Another theory that needs a big trim with Occam's Razor? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#ff0000">_______________________________________________<br /></font><font size="2"><em>SpeedFreek</em></font> </p> </div>
 
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fear

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I don't think neutrinos would do much of anything. They're notorious for not interacting with other matter very much. <br /><br />The solar wind would pack far more punch than neutrinos and even that is minimal enough that you could ignore it for most practical purposes. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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onesimple

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Myabe you are right, maybe i am right.<br /><br />If i am right, dont think about if neutrinos doing something or not.<br /><br />If they expanding and open energy waves who pushing every atoms nucleus far a way from sun who expanding all a time, this is happening all earth history. Thats why you cant say what nutrinos cant do and what solar wind can do.<br /><br />And lets remember entropy.<br /><br />If neutrinos expanding and open energy waves, this energywaves particle is very small, so they can go inside atoms nucleus and they can giving moving energy for quarks.<br /><br />How you can realise that?<br /><br />If you dont know how gravity works after Newton, you have to ask is there any gravity at all?<br /><br />If you want theory for everything, maybe you have to think about new way.<br /><br />Savorinen<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" />
 
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SpeedFreek

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So how does your alternative to gravity cause an apple to "fall" from a tree onto the ground? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#ff0000">_______________________________________________<br /></font><font size="2"><em>SpeedFreek</em></font> </p> </div>
 
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onesimple

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Apple getting more near to earth centrum, even apple dont moving to earth centrum.<br /><br />Expanding apple moving far a way from earth centrum all a time, like all atoms, but when apple fall, is not moving so quickly what all other earth expanding atoms moving far a way from earth centrum.<br /><br />Thats real relativity.<br /><br />Savorinen<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" />
 
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MannyPim

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Trying to glimpse how your universe works...<br /><br />My brain is starting to hurt !! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="2" color="#0000ff"><em>The only way to know what is possible is to attempt the impossible.</em></font> </div>
 
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lsbd

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I don't know which is worse:<br /><br />his use of english<br />or his wacky ideas
 
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MeteorWayne

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It's a tie. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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SpeedFreek

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So, to explain the apparent motion of an apple from tree to ground, you say that both the apple and the Earth are expanding, but the Earth is expanding faster? The Earth, at sea-level <b>and</b> at the top of Mount Everest, is expanding at 10m/s^2?<br /><br />That's real creativity. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#ff0000">_______________________________________________<br /></font><font size="2"><em>SpeedFreek</em></font> </p> </div>
 
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onesimple

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Maybe is faster, because earth also open energyparticle who giving some movingenergy for every expanding atoms nucleus.<br /><br />It is not a problem because all universe what we can see, moving out this space where universe what we can see is now, in one moment. And same time everything can expanding maybe twice large.<br /><br />Also light moving with all energy far a way from one point who is very far a way outside universe what we can see. Thats why old light is prolonged.<br /><br />If you asking that from Einstein, i think about that Einstein told for us, it is possible.<br /><br />Still, light speed is highest speed for us<br /><br /><br />Savorinen<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" />
 
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Mee_n_Mac

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<font color="yellow">So, to explain the apparent motion of an apple from tree to ground, you say that both the apple and the Earth are expanding, but the Earth is expanding faster? The Earth, at sea-level and at the top of Mount Everest, is expanding at 10m/s^2?</font><br /><br />Details, details .... don't bother the new Copernicus with details.<br /><br />Actually given the apple is expanding shouldn't the Earth be doing so ever so slightly less than 10m/s^2 ? And given everything expands in proportion shouldn't larger objects experience more "gravity" than smaller objects, independant of what they are made of ? Aaargh, more details again. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>-----------------------------------------------------</p><p><font color="#ff0000">Ask not what your Forum Software can do do on you,</font></p><p><font color="#ff0000">Ask it to, please for the love of all that's Holy, <strong>STOP</strong> !</font></p> </div>
 
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lsbd

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so if I bring my hand up to my face and then relax the muscles, how does it get back down? does my hand and the earth expand to meet each other? if so, does the rest of my body also expand? I am sooooo confused. someone please please please explain this non-existance of gravity to me! <img src="/images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
 
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onesimple

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Ebery atoms expanding all a time. <br /><br />Also yours body atoms.<br /><br />http://www.onesimpleprinciple.com/248<br /><br />Savorinen<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" />
 
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onesimple

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Maybe is better if we just wait. And when i get all my www.onesimpleprinciple.com pages with good english, we can speak more.<br /><br />Here is map for pages.<br /><br /><br />http://www.onesimpleprinciple.com/296<br /><br />* = good english<br />+ = maybe<br /> = you cant understund, sorry.<br /><br /><br />Savorinen<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" />
 
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Kalstang

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gotta admire his/her persistance at least. <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#ffff00"><p><font color="#3366ff">I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer.</font> <br /><font color="#ff0000">"Imagination is more important then Knowledge" ~Albert Einstien~</font> <br /><font color="#cc99ff">Guns dont kill people. People kill people</font>.</p></font><p><font color="#ff6600">Solar System</font></p> </div>
 
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MeteorWayne

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<img src="/images/icons/tongue.gif" /> <br /><br />Anybody can pile up cowpies. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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Mee_n_Mac

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<font color="yellow">gotta admire his/her persistance at least.</font><br /><br />I've come across some fairly persistant mosquito's too. Can't say I admired them either. <br /><br />I'd be happy to get an answer to any question that wasn't a regurgitation of opening energy waves from expanding energy-centrums. Is gravity the same on all planets of equal size independant of their composition ? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>-----------------------------------------------------</p><p><font color="#ff0000">Ask not what your Forum Software can do do on you,</font></p><p><font color="#ff0000">Ask it to, please for the love of all that's Holy, <strong>STOP</strong> !</font></p> </div>
 
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qso1

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The idea of gravity is something that Newton, Galileo and perhaps some others have demonstrated with experiments.<br /><br />What sort of experiments have you done to prove this expanding Universe theory? And don't get me wrong here, I'm not asking that you do any to prove it to us. Thats why this thread is in phenomenon. But if you really want your ideas to be taken seriously, you really need supportive data that can be verified by others. So far all I have seen in your threads is a lot of discussion that makes little sense to me...and its not because of your command of the english language either. Its just that so far, I haven't read anything you have stated that makes logical sense, much less seen any supporting data.<br /><br />For example:<br />What is the moon/globe system...what globe are you talking about? How big is this globe? How far is it from the moon? How do the two interact?<br /><br />Onesimple:<br />Ebery atoms expanding all a time.<br /><br />Me:<br />Or the example above...what frame of reference do you use to determine every atom is expanding? If all atoms are expanding, how would you even know where to begin to determine any signs of expansion? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>My borrowed quote for the time being:</strong></p><p><em>There are three kinds of people in life. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen...and those who do not know what happened.</em></p> </div>
 
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