My concept about time :-)

[unlearningthemistakes]

this is hard for an average man like me to explain... <br />but I'll try my concepts.. <br /><br />time has no quality.. <br />no property.. <br />intangible... <br />difficult to describe but nonetheless percieved.. <br /><br />consider that you could run at light's speed.. <br />you would notice that everybody "seems" to be non moving, but infact they are. <br />It would "seem" to you that time had stopped...but in fact it did not. just imagine if you are inside the train and the train is moving very fast. You could see people outside moving very very slow eventhough they are running or walking fast.. <br /><br />but that is what it "seems"... <br /><br />now consider you are about to dive into a blackhole.... <br /><br />from inside the field, you could see bizzare things outside the strong gravitational pull.. why? <br />because Bhole bends light waves into it, causing images to get distorted.. <br />now, talking about time, as you fall into the shrinks, (well its just a matter of small time for you to hit the singularity..) everything would seem to be moving slow because you are moving so fast as gravity pulls you... <br />and you, as a refference could say that time within the event horizon is distorted.. <br /><br />but truthfully, time does not matter inside the blackhole for there is nothing to make itself aware of itself. <br /><br />you can create a clock that runs counterclockwise but time would still move forward... <br />______________________________________________________________________________________________ <br />if we end today( die ) it is logical to say it is the end of our time... <br />if time ends today, it is logical to say it is our end... <br />______________________________________________________________________________________________ <br /><br />I hope I gave a good explanation.. <br /> <br /><br />P.S. <br />where on the same boat-trip to learning <br />advice me if I'm wrong<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>pain is inevitable</p><p>suffering is optional </p> </div>

 

[scull]

OK, when I was about to dive into the black hole, was time REALLY running faster (because spacetime was distorted), or was that just my PERCEPTION? <br /><br /><br />?

 

[kmarinas86]

Mass, Energy, and light are in slow motion near a black hole:<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_time_dilation

 

[scull]

...but for the one falling into the black hole it's fast?<br /><br /><br /><br />?

 

[majornature]

<font color="yellow"><b>consider that you could run at light's speed.. <br /></b></font><br /><br />Great concept.<br /><br />Well I watch a show about the Speed of light and Time and it is similar to what you're saying. I learned a different theory and it suggests that as you move at the speed of light, time seems to slow down meaning that if you move at the speed of light, the biological clock slows down. Moreover, moving at the speed of light can also distort the view in which the eye sees it curve and also there's a possible chance that you may see the colors "blue" meaning closer and "red' meaning farther away. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="2" color="#14ea50"><strong><font size="1">We are born.  We live.  We experiment.  We rot.  We die.  and the whole process starts all over again!  Imagine That!</font><br /><br /><br /><img id="6e5c6b4c-0657-47dd-9476-1fbb47938264" style="width:176px;height:247px" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/14/4/6e5c6b4c-0657-47dd-9476-1fbb47938264.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" width="276" height="440" /><br /></strong></font> </div>

 

[newtonian]

unlearningthemistakes - sounds close, interesting.<br /><br />As a figure of speech, we do not know when our time is up. But this is the individual concept of time, which also causes time to seem to flow faster as you grow older (perception probably caused by mathematical ratios - e.g. one year is 20% of a 5 year old child's life; but only 10% of a 10 year olds life; 5% of a 20 year olds life; 2% of a 50 year old's life, etc.)<br /><br />My defintion of time:<br /><br />Time: the medium through which cause and effect flow.<br /><br />One property of time: it flows only forward, not backward. Called time's arrow by some scientists.<br /><br />Note, however, that a few other posters disagree.<br /><br />God's concept of time is different from ours:<br /><br />(2 Peter 3:8) 8 However, let this one fact not be escaping YOUR notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.<br /><br />For a totally different defintion of time, look up:<br /><br />Thyme.

 

[scull]

My question was a specific one: <br /><br />The Real (meaning, independent of perception) against the Perceived.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Oh well...

 

[scull]

thyme???<br /><br />Are we herbalists here, or science freaks?<br /><br /><br />And who is AV, by the way?<br /><br /><br />?

 

[unlearningthemistakes]

I believe time runs flat-same to the whole universe..<br /><br />If scull was on point A in the universe and I am on point B in the same universe, with a spread distance of 2B Ly between, I age 1 minute every 1 minute of yours. If I have aged 60 yrs.in point B, you also aged 60 years in your point A..<br /><br />thats why we people need clocks and watches to avoid perception messing around time... <br /><br />so we can say Its 6 pm because the clock says so, even if it feels just like 5:30 pm...<br /><br />but without looking at the clock, everyone else would say a different value of time...<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>pain is inevitable</p><p>suffering is optional </p> </div>

 

[unlearningthemistakes]

----thyme---?<br /><br />scarborough fair ....<br /><br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>pain is inevitable</p><p>suffering is optional </p> </div>

 

[scull]

I've aged twice as quick these couple of days trying to understand Time. It can't just be my perception because other people have commented I look tired.<br /><br /><br /><br />???

 

[unlearningthemistakes]

well, look at your watch and your sister's watch....<br /><br />compare..<br /><br />if you really aged twice...<br /><br />its the physical aspect of our body that depicts you look younger/older today...which are highly affected by stress and pollution...<br /><br />that is something time does not posses..<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>pain is inevitable</p><p>suffering is optional </p> </div>

 

[scull]

You're right, of course.<br /><br />....But I think I really screwed up my *biological* watch because I'm tired.<br /><br /><br />Now I'm X2<br /><br />--

 

[unlearningthemistakes]

take VIT- E...<br /><br />it helps.... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>pain is inevitable</p><p>suffering is optional </p> </div>

 

[eric2006]

:As a figure of speech, we do not know when our time is up. But this is the individual concept of time, which also causes time to seem to flow faster as you grow older (perception probably caused by mathematical ratios - e.g. one year is 20% of a 5 year old child's life; but only 10% of a 10 year olds life; 5% of a 20 year olds life; 2% of a 50 year old's life, etc.) "<br /><br />You noticed this too? It seems like it was just November last year. I though the universe was just expanding faster and time was speading up.. j/k

 

[scull]

expansion = aging<br /><br /><br />Got it.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> <br />s--

 

[eric2006]

notice the j/k?

 

[scull]

john/kennedy who sent people to the moon. yes, i noticed.<br /><br /><br />As the Universe expands, it ages (and so do we).<br /><br /><br />And time moves forward....<br /><br /><br />--<br /><br />

 

[eric2006]

OIC-now.<br /><br />I was making a joke but you're saying I was right? That's cool.

 

[scull]

Of course you're right; November comes around once a year.<br /><br />That's why I said, "Got it."<br /><br /><br /><br />?

 

[eric2006]

Forgive me. I was dropped on my head when I was a baby. I'm a little slow sometimes.<br /><br />;-)

 

[scull]

Liar. You're not slow at all; you're fast as a photon.<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br /><br />--

 

[eric2006]

Oh, no you don't. You're not going to pull me into another one. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" />

 

[scull]

Now, I have a question about time....<br /><br />When one's time is up, what happens to the body's energy? Is it destroyed? Can energy be destroyed?<br /><br /><br /><br />?<br />

 

[harmonicaman]

<big><b>ENERGY</b></big><br /><br />Definition:<br /><br />ENERGY is the property of a physically identifiable object (such as a brick) or a field (such as a magnetic field) which allows it to do measurable work on another object or field. <br /><br />Facts about Energy:<br /><br />Energy is conserved; it can neither be created nor destroyed. This simple fact is one of the most important laws of physics. It is known as the <i><b>Law of Conservation of Energy.</b></i> <br /><br />The total amount of energy in the Universe is constant ... this total amount NEVER changes (see above). <br /><br />Energy is the currency of nature. No process or event can occur without energy being transferred.