Nasa names the CEV

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nacnud

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Well possibly, Nasaspaceflight.com has an article on it, NASA closing in on naming new fleet.<br /><br />CEV = Altair<br />LASM = Artemis<br />CLV = Ares I<br />CaLV = Ares V<br /><br />I like the selection, though Altair seems the weakest of the three, perhaps it'll grow on me. Check out the link for a bit more etymology.<br /><br />
 
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tomnackid

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Not crazy about Altair either--reminds me of the old Altair 8800 kit built personal computer! Artemis was Apollo's twin sister so that makes sense. The name Saturn was originally chosen because it was the next planet out from Jupiter which is what the previous Huntsville rocket was called. If Ares refers to Mars does that mean we are taking two steps back!? Although if we continued the trend we could be hearing the stirring words "Uranus has left the launch pad on its way to the moon." Hmmm, maybe just as well <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> Or is it an homage to Zubrin's own "Ares" SDLV concept. I suppose it keeps the ultimate goal of Mars in the public's awareness.
 
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nacnud

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Perhaps it has something to do with a previouse program that started with A?
 
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rfoshaug

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"If Lockheed wins, it looks rigged, to use 'their' name before the choice is made."<br /><br />Well, since almost every Lockheed aircraft ever built has a star- or space-themed name (like Galaxy, Starlifter, Starfighter, Constellation, Vega, Orion, Hercules, Neptune, Shooting Star, Tristar, Saturn etc.), it's just likely that this might happen.<br /><br />I think Altair is a good name, and Ares I/Ares V is even better. Artemis sounds a little strange, but I guess we'll get used to it.<br /><br />My favorite would have been if the heavy-lift rocket was called Galaxy. <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#ff9900">----------------------------------</font></p><p><font color="#ff9900">My minds have many opinions</font></p> </div>
 
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baktothemoon

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How do Vega, Sirus, or Cygnus sound for a different name? I kind of like Artemis or Ares though.<br /><br />"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."John F. Kennedy
 
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nacnud

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After reading about the Artemis Project the name Artemis instantly conjures up an image of a moon base. I think it’s a perfect name. Same with Mars Direct and the Ares launcher.<br /><br />I guess I just didn't know enough about the Altair moniker.<br />
 
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josh_simonson

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I also agree that there's too much aliteration going on. I'd throw out Altair for Centauri or Neptune or something similar. <br /><br />"Centauri command module" or "Centari capsule" sounds good, but "altair capsule/command module" doesn't roll off the tounge well at all. <br /><br />We definitely don't want to go from saturn to uranus. "Mission command, I've finished running a patch cable from Artimis to Uranus.", "Uranus is exposed to extreme temperatures and pressure during launch and re-entry", "Uranus reached a major milestone today when..." and "We've got a problem, evacuating into Uranus." In 2025 Conan would still be coming up with new ones.
 
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mikejz

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I would much rather perfer that they have one of those 'school children name it' contests. <br /><br />I figure if they are going to have a bunch of gov't workers get paid to select a name, might as well get some good, and maybe a little insperation out of it.
 
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willpittenger

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Are these names for prototypes of each or more like Saturn V or Jupiter? Remember, the Apollo spacecraft module designs were simply known as command, service, and landers. Names like Gumdrop were not applied except to actual vehicles -- and only those occupied by crew. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <hr style="margin-top:0.5em;margin-bottom:0.5em" />Will Pittenger<hr style="margin-top:0.5em;margin-bottom:0.5em" />Add this user box to your Wikipedia User Page to show your support for the SDC forums: <div style="margin-left:1em">{{User:Will Pittenger/User Boxes/Space.com Account}}</div> </div>
 
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propforce

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<font color="yellow">This kind of statement serves no purpose except to stir up emotional responses. This type of statement should not be used in SDC. </font><br /><br />I'd say a minimum of 3-day posting ban, plus a public spanking to set a good example ! <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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john_316

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Personally I think all the "A" Names suck!<br /><br />They should be more akin to names of actually doing something inspiring...<br /><br />Ares? Oh inspiring indeed! Not!<br /><br />Excelsior or perhaps the Griffin (haha funny huh)or something that invokes something other than roman names of the past...<br /><br />Geeze this is America not Rome.....<br /><br /><br />Some other names<br /><br />Starfire, Starburst, Sunfire, Phoenix, along those lines...<br /><br />Wasn't Project Ares the movie were they faked the Mars landings?<br /><br /><br />:p<br />
 
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barrykirk

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Should they save the "Ares" name for rockets going to Mars???
 
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crix

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I have to agree that I think they've gone a little heavy on the A's. I can see getting used to them... they all seem beautiful knowing what they actually represent! I'm not so sure if I'm hot on the Saturn V parallel... I think Ares I seems more bold.<br /><br />Hurry up 2018!! I'm pretty confident though that we're going to see so many other private space projects occur before then. yay!<br /><br />
 
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ehs40

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what about the name Enterprise? i mean why not its will sound more up with the times then a roman and greek name save the mythological names for stars and planets
 
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SpaceKiwi

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Artemis is the only one of the suggested names that resonates with me, I'm fond of that one. The others all seem bland, almost as though they were picked by a government agency.<br /><br />Perhaps they were/are going for the staid=serious=responsible angle? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em><font size="2" color="#ff0000">Who is this superhero?  Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!</font></em></p><p><em><font size="2">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></em></p><p><font size="5">Bring Back The Black!</font></p> </div>
 
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mlorrey

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Well, we know that the government will never name a phallic object "Uranus". The gay contingent would have a field day....<br /><br />Ares actually fits the big boosters, given how red they are, and their SRBs are corporate welfare for the nuclear war industry.<br /><br />Altair means "the flyer" in arabic, so perhaps this is a token to the muslim community in these politically charged times. Altair, along with Beta Aquilae and Gamma Aquilae, form the well-known line of stars sometimes referred to as "the shaft of Aquila". As Aquila is "the Eagle", a constellation in which which Altair is the brightest star, as well as the eagle being the symbol of the US, and the CLV is "The Stick", another term for a "shaft", it all seems to hang together.<br /><br />
 
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willpittenger

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<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>Are these names for prototypes of each or more like Saturn V or Jupiter? Remember, the Apollo spacecraft module designs were simply known as command, service, and landers. Names like Gumdrop were not applied except to actual vehicles -- and only those occupied by crew.<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br />Nobody answered my question. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <hr style="margin-top:0.5em;margin-bottom:0.5em" />Will Pittenger<hr style="margin-top:0.5em;margin-bottom:0.5em" />Add this user box to your Wikipedia User Page to show your support for the SDC forums: <div style="margin-left:1em">{{User:Will Pittenger/User Boxes/Space.com Account}}</div> </div>
 
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gunsandrockets

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"CEV = Altair"<br />"LASM = Artemis" <br />"CLV = Ares I" <br />"CaLV = Ares V"<br /><br />Shouldn't that be the LSAM? (heh) But Artemis is a good choice, thumbs up for that one. I like the idea of naming the lander for it's destination.<br /><br />Ares V? The V must represent the five SSME. Ares isn't very imaginative, but the name will implicitly connect future space exploration to Mars in the public mind, and that's a good thing.<br /><br />Ares I? Ugh. As ugly as the shaft is, NASA should name it the Cyclops!<br /><br />Altair? Meh. I've got a better idea though. In the spirit of naming a lander for it's destination, how about Mojave? (Terra is another possibility) <br />
 
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tplank

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I said this before with a reaction somewhat less than a yawn, but really, the Lunar Lander, either the class or the first return ship, should definitely be named Armstrong. I'd also like to see craft named after fallen astronauts.<br /><br />The later will never happen. We as a nation shun risk. Rather than celebrate the audacity, bravery and intitiative of these bold souls, we instead are locked in inappropriately maudlin mourining. While sadness is, of course, appropriate, the extremes to which we carry it ultimately denies the intelligence and bravery of those who died. There is nothing that commemerates the memory like naming the vessles after them. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>The Disenfranchised Curmudgeon</p><p>http://tonyplank.blogspot.com/ </p> </div>
 
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ehs40

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naming craft after fallen astronauts is the best idea i have ever heard for naming any kind of craft this would be great
 
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tjames

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I think we should just give in an X designation...after all the minute it works they'll just scrap it and start the space program all over again wasting billions more.
 
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